At this point the contents of said "file" are of less importance than the public conversation.

Pedophilia is a heinous crime. Perps need to be called out, and brought to justice.

So the conversation is a useful moral corrective, especially for the republicons who have sacrificed their honor around this evil (obviously) shit.

Knowing how much it's infuriating Trump.

It is good media hype. Idle hands are the Devil's workshop
It gives the MSM something to yap about.

But don't we know enough about Trump and his ability to cover things up? I feel like I'm back in the Nixon days and hoping to find out what's on that missing 20 minutes of tape.

Inquiring minds would like to know MORE!

I don’t need to read any more, myself, but if it bothers the orange one and his cult, why not keep poking them?

Let it play out. There is "there there".

we here at DU do. But, it seems the general public isn't noticing we are losing our right and the checks and balances of our government.

Yeah, it would be nice if the epstein horrors take down trump. But, that wouldn't stop the republicans on their way to destroy our beloved country.

and the constitution , whose ineffective checks and balances enabled this hostile takeover.

if taking trump and trumpism down requires the nation to fall, so be it.

There is SO much horribleness and just now people are just now worked up about things that 95% were known way back when this guy first ran for POTUS ...

That is all

trafficked get in the way of some other story you’d prefer people talked about?

If yes then that’s part of why there’s trafficking happening so easily in the first place.

Let the files be shown. Doesn’t matter who is on them. Whatever happens after must happen.

Too important to be tired of, too important to let go of.

I just block topics and ignore posters that harp on and on about it.

TSF bleeds a little every time he hears it. I KNOW it pisses him off every time!

What remains to be seen is how much of it is leaked, and to what degree the maga base becomes disillusioned with their orange god.

Of course, Hair Twitler's declining health is a wild card in this saga.

no way its the real goods, no way it will expose DT, and only those who they want to be hurt by it will be hurt.

Either way, this will be a distant memory by mid terms and all these wingers throwing fits over this will work their way back into the fold cause LIBERALS!

And the insane QANON conspiracy theory is far from the only reason MAGAts are in the fascist camp.

We might never know everything that's in them, but the real bone of contention is the fact that Trump repeatedly promised to release them and then all of a sudden AG Barbie, who does exactly what Trump tells her, announces that there's no "client list" and nothing to release, and that Epstein committed suicide. MAGA's favorite conspiracy theory just went up in smoke, and they have a big mad. Of course, anybody who denies the existence of a conspiracy automatically becomes part of it, so now Bondi Barbie and Trump are among the co-conspirators. This thing has more legs than a centipede.

I want the disgusting truth to be shown nationwide in pictures while protecting the identities of the minors involved. They can also blur the naughty bits, but make it obvious what's going on.

Maybe they are trying to distract us from learning about the felon's crimes by focusing our attention on documentation of those crimes? Or if not that, maybe distracting the maga cult by focusing attention on the Epstein files because they document the lies that the felon campaigned on? I mean, even the felon has said focus on the Epstein files is a waste of time. They don't even exist. Maybe we should trust the felon's lies about his lies? Maybe we should seek the safety found in burying our heads in the sand, rather than being distracted by reality.

Everyone seemed to accept that and just go along with it.

Why is everyone so worked up about it now?

People’s, especially MAGAs, expectations were raised.

I think because the felon & fiends had campaigned on his being the only person who could defeat the secret society raping and killing children. The cult believed that. Supporting him was a big part of their identity. Now that he is president again, he could release them. The felon's claim that there are no files makes for the first time that many maga cult members do not believe him.

Steve Bannon and Tucker Carlson are both saying the felon is now part of the "deep state." Keep in mind that both view the felon as entering the lame duck phase of his second term. (I think that happens after the mid-terms, but they both see cracks.) Keep in mind that both think they should be president.

A whole bunch of them voted for Trump mainly because they believed all the bullshit about Democrats running a massive Satanic pedophile ring. And, they were sick of waiting for Dear Leader to expose them, arrest them, and execute them. He wasn't keeping his promise, and they were getting impatient. Now, many of them are figuring out that he lied to them...

And those powerful men diddling adolescent girls ought to be exposed.

Why wasn't anything released during Biden's term?

That's telling, and I think because this thing will end up cutting both ways.

maybe taint the image of the presidency. Reminds me of Jerry Ford pardoning Nixon. Shame Biden didn't release it, but this is not unusual since Democrats have a way of playing nice when they should be throwing hardballs. We've got to give as good as we get.

Too much juicy info if only trump were involved...Common sense will tell you, (and the sheer number of people involved over the decades), it's not all Republicans that were involved with this sleazebag,

Occam's razor and all.

Old time politician was/is Joe Biden.

We needed to tear the bandaid for the country

It would have lessened the presidency for him to order the DOJ to release files with names of people not being charged. Double so if it is about a political opponent. I saddened to see Democrats who have zero grasp that post-Watergate, everyone agreed that the DOJ should be kept away from a president's agenda. One of the responsibilities of citizenship is being educated to the point where simple questions are already answered.

All those documents and files were procured during the con artist's first term. That's when Epstein was charged, incarcerated and died.

So trying to push this as "why didn't Biden release it" is a distraction from the con artist. Releasing them was the con's promise.

I have no doubt there are many prominent men implicated in this, world wide. I would like to hope that some of it, the money laundering, is still under investigation. And there are men who know which men sexually assaulted and sexually abused 13 and 14 year old girls. The con artist is the one running scared now. Not Joe Biden.

What we know now is all there is to know.

Thanks

it’s very easy for something to slip by us.

Joe had his hands full with Covid, the economy, re-establishing our international relationships, Ukraine, and the DOJ was trying to track, arrest and prosecute the J6 insurrectionists - who Trump pardoned in many cases.

Releasing the Epstein files was a RW issue before the election as they continued to suggest Dems are pedophiles (remember Pizzagate?).

This is their issue. Let them drown in it.

pick up juicy tidbits here and there and crank things up even more. A compromising photo would be good.

fresh information emerges I'll be happy, again.

And I hope every man who participated in this remains paranoid and frightened that they can be outed at any time.

Don't stop until his political career and that of his family and associates are all dead.

Furthermore, I recommend that everyone let their senator and representative know that if they do not support a thorough investigation, you will support their challenger in the primary and their opponent in the general election.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

Pam Bondi didn't prosecute his network while she was in Florida, what motivation would she have to do so now?

We need to keep the pressure up. If TFG is covering for Epstein it is impeachable and it won't have 100% MAGAt support, but it will be enough to get him out of office.

I hold a similar cynical view, but I'm enjoying sitting back, having some popcorn, and watching MAGATs attack Trump.

It would be nice if everybody have sex with minors was exposed, but I'm keeping my expectations very low.

And keep poking that big stick at the orange Hitler !

To the point he loses it biggly

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For them to bring up that the files are in Hunter Biden's laptop. I'm enjoying the maga pubs crash out.

Clots and Prayers!

What I can’t get enough of, though, is how it’s got Corpulent Caligula freaking right the #%@& out. That I’m enjoying immensely.

It's a wonderful Cultural Bludgeon

If there is one thing we can thank that worthless piece of crap for it would be for his attack on Murdoch and the WSJ. Hopefully the WSJ and Murdoch's tentacles will keep this in the headlines for a long, long time.

On the other hand, well, obviously we here have no intention of throwing in the towel!

It has to come out, unfortunely I dont think the media has the heart to do so.

Not even close

More will be leaked out over time, possibly including Epstein's client list.

No!

I can ignore the more disgusting parts of the saga. He can't.

if it gets rid of the evil warlock.

I want those files front and center the entire time that this charlatan is alive.