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mahatmakanejeeves

(65,667 posts)
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 03:44 AM Sunday

"Sorry, Pat, I still can't guess"

Kevin M. Kruse
‪@kevinmkruse.bsky.social‬

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“Sorry, Pat, I still can’t guess”


‪Kieran Healy‬
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What sort of further signals do people want, exactly? Something in three mile high letters of fire in the sky or something?
Months later, when Mr. Trump hosted a party at Mar-a-Lago for young women in a so-called calendar girl competition, Mr. Epstein was the only other guest, according to George Houraney, a Florida-based businessman who arranged the event. Mr. Houraney recalled being surprised that Mr. Epstein was the only other person on the guest list.
"I said, 'Donald, this is supposed to be a party with V.I.P.s," Mr. Houraney told The New York Times in
2019. "You're telling me it's you and Epstein?'" Mr. Houraney's then-girlfriend and business partner, Jill Harth, later accused Mr. Trump of sexual misconduct on the night of the party. In a lawsuit, Ms.
Harth said that Mr. Trump took her into a bedroom and forcibly kissed and fondled her, and restrained her from leaving. She also said that a 22-year-old contestant told her that Mr. Trump later that night crawled into her bed uninvited.
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July 19, 2025 at 9:06 PM

“Sorry, Pat, I still can’t guess”

Kevin M. Kruse (@kevinmkruse.bsky.social) 2025-07-20T01:06:47.905Z
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BaronChocula

(3,004 posts)
1. drip...... drip..... drip...drip..drip
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 04:20 AM
Sunday

..drip. drip. drip. dripdripdripdripdripdripdripdripdripdripdripdripdripdripdrip

Hugin

(36,625 posts)
2. The MO is consistent with Stormy Daniels testimony from Trump's criminal trial.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 04:33 AM
Sunday

By that time he was well practiced.

Irish_Dem

(72,487 posts)
3. Trump loved to trap his rape victims into rooms. He did it with Stormy and EJ Carroll.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 04:52 AM
Sunday

Used elaborate hoaxes to lure them into a room where he could trap them in order to rape them.

With Stormy, Trump concocted a big story about putting her on his TV show and taking her out to dinner.
With EJ Carroll, an elaborate story about buying a dress for his wife/girlfriend and needing help picking it out.

The hoax part of the rape was part of the fun for Trump.
Women trusted him for some reason and he was able to convince them of anything.
He got off on all parts of his crime.

Just like he does with the American voters.

Hugin

(36,625 posts)
5. In the Apprentice Tape he speaks of taking her furniture shopping.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 05:40 AM
Sunday

Tired old tricks for a tired old pedophile and acknowledged rapist.

IcyPeas

(23,915 posts)
6. This... and more were written here in this article from The Guardian in 2020
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 06:30 AM
Sunday

I posted this article a couple of times.

Teen models, powerful men and private dinners: when Trump hosted Look of the Year

The Guardian article was written in March 2020. All this shit was public knowledge. The links to the article below. It's a pretty long article. Talks about trump, John Casablancas, epstein: that guy Marie was a doozy, and Casablancas too.

In 1991, there were 10 judges in total, eight of them men, including Trump, Casablancas, the celebrity magician David Copperfield, and the president of Elite’s European division, Gérald Marie.


George Houraney, a businessman whose American Dream Calendar Girls beauty contest had been running in Las Vegas casinos since 1978, recalls encountering Epstein at Mar-a-Lago in January 1993. Houraney says that Trump asked him to organise a party that month with some of his pageant’s finalists, promising to invite heads of modelling agencies and prospective sponsors for his competition. “He had me fly in all these girls, and gave me a $30,000 budget for airfares and limos to pick them up at the airport,” he says. “The girls were all decked out, expecting to meet all these VIPs.” But after an hour at the party, Houraney says, there seemed to be only one other guest: Epstein. “I was like, ‘Donald, where are the guys? What’s going on here?’ And he said, ‘Well, this is it.’” Houraney says he realised “this is a Jeff Epstein party, basically”.

While suspicious of Epstein, Houraney was keen to have Trump as a business partner. A month earlier, in December 1992, Trump had met with Houraney and Jill Harth, who ran the pageant together. They were looking for a new sponsor for their contest, which each year saw models aged 16 to 22 compete to appear in wall calendars wearing bikinis and swimsuits while posing with classic cars. At dinner in the Plaza’s Oak Room, Harth, Houraney and Trump discussed moving the American Dream competition from Las Vegas to one of Trump’s casinos. “He wanted to build this into the biggest, the best thing that he could do. He was talking about television and pulling out all the contacts,” Harth later said. Eventually, the pageant was held at Trump Castle in Atlantic City in November 1993, but for one year only.

The partnership soured and ended in two lawsuits, but for Trump it was a prelude to a series of more lucrative ventures in the beauty business. In 1996, he secured what the New York Daily News described as “his most beautiful deal yet”. After months of negotiations, Trump acquired the Miss Universe Organization in a reported $10m deal that handed him control of three large, well-established pageants: Miss Universe, Miss USA, and Miss Teen USA. Three years later, he founded Trump Model Management, poaching many staff from Elite.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/14/teen-models-powerful-men-when-donald-trump-hosted-look-of-the-year



https://archive.ph/2025.07.19-001832/https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/14/teen-models-powerful-men-when-donald-trump-hosted-look-of-the-year




RandomNumbers

(18,779 posts)
7. If he were a Democrat ...
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 11:43 AM
Sunday

Sigh.

how the F* is the media not running with this like they would any whisper of impropriety by a Democrat? (why I am suddenly thinking of Al Franken? but there are so many others)

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