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In It to Win It

(11,231 posts)
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 10:16 PM Jul 19

In-N-Out billionaire Lynsi Snyder says she is leaving California: 'Doing business is not easy here'

In-N-Out's billionaire owner, Lynsi Snyder, is done with California.

Speaking on the "Relatable" podcast released Friday, Snyder said she's moving to Tennessee as the cult burger chain plans its southeastern expansion and establishes a new headquarters in the suburbs outside Nashville.

"There's a lot of great things about California, but raising a family is not easy here. Doing business is not easy here," Snyder said.

During the conversation with host Allie Beth Stuckey, Snyder cited COVID-era business restrictions, such as mask mandates and vaccine requirements, as particular elements of California policy that made it difficult to operate in the state.

In 2021, health officials temporarily shut down several In-N-Out locations in California because the chain refused to require proof of COVID-19 vaccinations.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/n-billionaire-lynsi-snyder-says-222627257.html
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In-N-Out billionaire Lynsi Snyder says she is leaving California: 'Doing business is not easy here' (Original Post) In It to Win It Jul 19 OP
Bye.............. Lovie777 Jul 19 #1
I never eat there. I don't get the whole cult following. Plenty of better burger joints in California. Johonny Jul 19 #2
Good riddance! Tarzanrock Jul 19 #3
lol Renew Deal Jul 20 #17
They aren't overpriced awesomerwb1 Jul 20 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 19 #4
Never noticed Bible verses, never cared, and they don't look particularly "secret" ... Hekate Jul 19 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 19 #16
If you know where they are Oeditpus Rex Jul 20 #24
Most people don't examine the bottom of fast food packaging. Irish_Dem Jul 20 #31
Most people also seem to know they're there Oeditpus Rex Jul 20 #47
I never understood what was so "Christian" about printing Bible verses Aristus Jul 20 #38
Most Xians gave up on the physical representation being somehow holy or sacred. Igel Jul 20 #39
She consulted Kid Rock about doing business in Nashville, lol. Jacoby365 Jul 19 #5
Still will make tons of money here in California........... Lovie777 Jul 19 #7
That's why it's all bs unless they are going to shut down the California locations JI7 Jul 19 #11
Fucking what??? The guy who shut his restaurants so they wouldn't get flagged for ICE raids? Initech Jul 20 #48
well their shitty hamburgers are already in Texas Skittles Jul 19 #6
Me either Horse with no Name Jul 20 #35
I didn't like them in Westwood, near UCLA. Igel Jul 20 #40
Don't let the door hit ya! Initech Jul 19 #8
Always a little slack-jawed when billionaires whine about the system that makes them rich. Midnight Writer Jul 19 #9
So she is going to close down all the California locations ? JI7 Jul 19 #10
I don't think so, she just wants to relocate zorbasd Jul 20 #21
Another whiny fucking billionaire. nt BootinUp Jul 19 #12
what a strange way to look at mask and vaccine mandates cadoman Jul 19 #14
So haul ass outta here. Nobody gives a damn. oasis Jul 19 #15
Not easy to do business but you're f****** billionaire LS0999 Jul 20 #18
Take your tough, dry burgers and NameAlreadyTaken Jul 20 #19
Doing business here is not easy kacekwl Jul 20 #20
wonder what red state gave her a sweeeheart tax deal.? AllaN01Bear Jul 20 #23
Maybe TN. Where they're moving to. Igel Jul 20 #41
thanks . lest she forgets her history AllaN01Bear Jul 20 #44
Iin the Red South Oeditpus Rex Jul 20 #25
hem. i couldnt do that now . im 5 foot 8 and 195 lbs AllaN01Bear Jul 20 #45
California made her family rich Pachamama Jul 20 #26
This is totally what Fox brain rot does to people. Initech Jul 20 #49
Over one million US people died from Covid DBoon Jul 20 #27
Ugh. ._. Jul 20 #28
Only ate there once - Meh. GoneOffShore Jul 20 #29
Requiring a fast food restaurant to check for Covid papers was stupid Melon Jul 20 #30
Making sure workers in contact with the public didn't spread a deadly disease was stupid? Liberal In Texas Jul 20 #34
"their" prices Mysterian Jul 20 #37
This woman is worth $7.3 billion and life is too damn hard for her. Irish_Dem Jul 20 #32
In other words she went tax shopping, and got a favorable deal in TN. indusurb Jul 20 #33
It was a novelty when they first came upon the scene. Liberal In Texas Jul 20 #36
No where else wants it either. Blue Full Moon Jul 20 #42
Nashville PennRalphie Jul 20 #43
If business is to hard in California then why LogDog75 Jul 20 #46

Johonny

(24,264 posts)
2. I never eat there. I don't get the whole cult following. Plenty of better burger joints in California.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 10:18 PM
Jul 19
 

Tarzanrock

(1,250 posts)
3. Good riddance!
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 10:18 PM
Jul 19

She can take her over-priced, lousy hamburger stands with her. The South deserves In-N-Out hamburgers. It's a good match for their Chicken Filet Shit.

awesomerwb1

(4,807 posts)
22. They aren't overpriced
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 01:03 AM
Jul 20

they're actually on the cheap side. And quite tasty and fresh.

I love In n out maybe 4 times a year.

Response to In It to Win It (Original post)

Hekate

(98,680 posts)
13. Never noticed Bible verses, never cared, and they don't look particularly "secret" ...
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 11:50 PM
Jul 19

In’N’Out makes a good burger and fries, has a clean reputation — I just can’t eat there except rarely because of my high cholesterol.

Back in college in the 1960s one of my guy-friends was absolutely devoted to them, and I think the local was the founding restaurant. This woman certainly has the right to leave the state in a snit, but I think she’s a fool — jmho.

Response to Hekate (Reply #13)

Irish_Dem

(72,738 posts)
31. Most people don't examine the bottom of fast food packaging.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 05:09 AM
Jul 20

So the religious messages are placed in a location which is not readily or easily seen.
Hence the feeling it is being hidden.

Oeditpus Rex

(42,151 posts)
47. Most people also seem to know they're there
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 10:40 PM
Jul 20

and don't give a rat's ass. Nothing I'm aware of about In-N-Out's religion is in my face, so I'll enjoy the Double Double with no thought to what's on the bottom of the cup, out of my vision.

Aristus

(70,489 posts)
38. I never understood what was so "Christian" about printing Bible verses
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 09:48 AM
Jul 20

on fast food wrappers that will get grease and condiments on them, and which will then be thrown in the trash.

Real reverence there…

Igel

(37,023 posts)
39. Most Xians gave up on the physical representation being somehow holy or sacred.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 02:48 PM
Jul 20

Burning a Bible is viewed not as destroying God's word but just being intentionally offensive--instead of assaulting you, they burn something you value. Like burning the flag.

Old guard Muslims treat the matter the words are printed on as somehow not to be abused, with prescribed ways to show respect.

At least some Orthodox Jews (and I'd assume Hasidim) are about the same: You store old Torah scrolls (and other things) in a geniza until they can be properly interred. It's because of that practice that the Cairo Geniza existed--the source for a lot of old Torah and Jewish texts.

Most Xians don't care--can't speak for all sects, all ages, but that's my experience. Don't disrespect it, but if a cat pees on it, just throw it in the trash. If my Bible had gotten trashed, I'd have missed it but could buy a new one easily enough. If they keep an old Bible it's usually out of sentimental value. I have an old Czech one printed in 1915, bought in an antikvariat in either Prague or Brno. Thought I could use it--now have decided the pages can't take the wear and tear of a non-native's reading it. It belonged to one Karel Vaculik. First page lists Karel's family and birthdates/baptism dates. Father born in 1879, mother in 1881. 6 kids. Glued-in picture, mother/father and 5 kids--don't know if the picture's pre-kid-#6 or one of them died. . And there's an extra woman in the pic, unidentified--aunt, nanny?

Jacoby365

(505 posts)
5. She consulted Kid Rock about doing business in Nashville, lol.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 10:26 PM
Jul 19

If it's so hard to do business in California, shut the In-n-Outs down.

Lovie777

(19,466 posts)
7. Still will make tons of money here in California...........
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 10:33 PM
Jul 19

the Rwers bash California, constantly, but with 40 million here, like musk, and Toyota, bigly monies is made here for them.

JI7

(92,364 posts)
11. That's why it's all bs unless they are going to shut down the California locations
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 10:47 PM
Jul 19

and rely on red states to make money.

Initech

(105,771 posts)
48. Fucking what??? The guy who shut his restaurants so they wouldn't get flagged for ICE raids?
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 11:08 PM
Jul 20

Igel

(37,023 posts)
40. I didn't like them in Westwood, near UCLA.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 02:56 PM
Jul 20

It opened and messed with traffic for weeks--line out the door and around the block.

Finally had one in Austin a couple of decades later. The kids in the youth group I was helping to shepherd insisted on going and raved on about it. Demanded, a year during the annual mock legislature that the statewide org holds in the TX Statehouse, that they go back.

Nope. Not a fan.

Five Guys, sure. (Current favorite dinery is Urban Bird, mostly Houston but scattered in suburbs around points from Houston to Killeen to San Antonio. Organic halal hot chicken.)

zorbasd

(443 posts)
21. I don't think so, she just wants to relocate
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 12:50 AM
Jul 20

main headquarters from CA to TN, just like Musk did from CA to TX.
No way is she going to close stores in CA, she'll go bankrupt, just as Musk is, as Calis are rejecting Teslas...

cadoman

(1,544 posts)
14. what a strange way to look at mask and vaccine mandates
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 11:52 PM
Jul 19

For me, mask and vaccine (and ideally, ventilation) mandates make me more likely to go out and do business. I'm disgusted at how lax people have become about COVID-19, and grateful for whatever business do still encourage masking and consideration for at-risk persons.

Strange that this fascist would consider such policy a bug rather than a feature.

LS0999

(231 posts)
18. Not easy to do business but you're f****** billionaire
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 12:23 AM
Jul 20

Doesn't sound that it was that hard to do business. There really needs to be a ceiling on personal and corporate wealth.

kacekwl

(8,474 posts)
20. Doing business here is not easy
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 12:39 AM
Jul 20

says the billionaire who is a billionaire by doing business there.

Igel

(37,023 posts)
41. Maybe TN. Where they're moving to.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 03:17 PM
Jul 20

Or may California, to be honest.

If In-N-Out has HQ in California, then it must pay income tax on out-of-state revenue equal to what California would charge in-state corporations. That's weirdly worded on purpose. If TN charges 5% income tax (no clue what they charge) and California charges 10%, with different things deductible, then they pay taxes in TN per TX law. Then, in California, they have to report what they paid, reconcile deductions with California law, and pay what they'd have to pay in California if all their revenue was in-state. California is a notoriously high-tax, esp. high-corporate tax, state--certainly not currently the highest in the US, but higher than most. Currently it's 8.84%. TN's is 6.5%.


California has a new corporate tax law that takes effect starting in 2026, payable in 2027, and that tax rate is set to increase--to help small businesses but also increase state revenue. "Its new Franklin, Tennessee headquarters is set to open in 2026." Moving the headquarters will give at least a 2.84% tax break on out-of-California revenue. If In-N-Out projects more revenue from outside of California, more will fall under that rubric.

Note that she's not moving the HQ to a 0% corporate tax state.

Oeditpus Rex

(42,151 posts)
25. Iin the Red South
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 02:39 AM
Jul 20

Last edited Sun Jul 20, 2025, 10:00 PM - Edit history (1)

she can pay her minions $7.25 per hour instead of $20 in California. Will she lower the prices of the food? Doubt it.

(I love In-N-Out cheeseburgers, but they're salty as hell. Sat once with a guy who ate two Double Doubles and said he'd once eaten four. He was built like me, too -- six feet, maybe 160 pounds.)

AllaN01Bear

(26,685 posts)
45. hem. i couldnt do that now . im 5 foot 8 and 195 lbs
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 03:54 PM
Jul 20

used to be able to do that . mary took nephew there for lunch when he was little .. no toys. still dont want to pay a fair wage eh?

Pachamama

(17,390 posts)
26. California made her family rich
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 02:41 AM
Jul 20

But I guess she can’t make California bow to her beliefs of how they should believe.

DBoon

(24,018 posts)
27. Over one million US people died from Covid
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 02:44 AM
Jul 20

and all she cares about is the inconvenience of masking and getting vaccines

Melon

(636 posts)
30. Requiring a fast food restaurant to check for Covid papers was stupid
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 03:30 AM
Jul 20

I’m on board with her there. The burgers are good and there prices didn’t go up as much as other chains.

Liberal In Texas

(15,453 posts)
34. Making sure workers in contact with the public didn't spread a deadly disease was stupid?
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 08:39 AM
Jul 20

I have a pretty good idea who's stupid.

Irish_Dem

(72,738 posts)
32. This woman is worth $7.3 billion and life is too damn hard for her.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 05:12 AM
Jul 20

Too hard to work and too hard to raise her family on a vast fortune.
And hates the state of California which made her this rich.

Maybe she should try making ends meet on minimum wage.

Liberal In Texas

(15,453 posts)
36. It was a novelty when they first came upon the scene.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 08:46 AM
Jul 20

The herd mentality of people queued up for not-so-great fast food made the cult thing flourish.

It pretty much only took me one visit to realize that this was an over-hyped mania bubble.

Blue Full Moon

(2,515 posts)
42. No where else wants it either.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 03:20 PM
Jul 20

Seems like they were always in the news because they made people sick.

PennRalphie

(430 posts)
43. Nashville
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 03:30 PM
Jul 20

I don’t know how many of you have been to Nashville recently, but the city is growing. Due to people moving there, mainly from the West Coast. Nashville isn’t all Kid Rock.

The Mayor of Nashville is a Democrat. He’s welcoming people to his city.

LogDog75

(678 posts)
46. If business is to hard in California then why
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 04:24 PM
Jul 20

is In-N--Out Burger so successful in California.

If it's about how it's not easy to raise children in California then how come so many middle and low income can do it?

Maybe, Lynsi, just maybe the problem isn't California but you.

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