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Swede

(36,812 posts)
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 09:04 AM Saturday

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

If my taxes don’t pave my roads or fix my bridges or keep my schools open 5 days a week or pay local teachers a living wage or help keep my hospital open or help my neighbor’s kid eat lunch or fund public television or my healthcare…

Why the fuck should I pay taxes?

If my taxes don’t pave my roads or fix my bridges or keep my schools open 5 days a week or pay local teachers a living wage or help keep my hospital open or help my neighbor’s kid eat lunch or fund public television or my healthcare…

Why the f’ck should I pay taxes?

Jess Piper (@piperformissouri.bsky.social) 2025-07-19T12:29:32.898Z


We have to pick up the slack for the ultra wealthy, corporations, & churches. All of which have political influence & say while paying minimal or zero taxes.

Brian Manning📎 (@boxdonkey17.bsky.social) 2025-07-19T12:59:07.410Z
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Thank you for your attention to this matter. (Original Post) Swede Saturday OP
And we're allowing this... dlilafae Saturday #1
"We" are not allowing this. Many of us are working many hours a week in the resistance. Amaryllis Saturday #5
Isn't that the fucking truth ZDU Saturday #2
K & R for Jess Piper. She's great. Substack link here: chia Saturday #3
I remember people bemoaning Greece as austerity Farmer-Rick Saturday #4
I've been saying this about our paying taxes for months kkmarie Saturday #6
My guess is military or building structures and roads near the Nazi's new commercial "endeavors". efhmc Saturday #8
Pete Hegseth's makeup studio and Kristi Noem's cosplaying yliza Saturday #10
To service the debt intrepidity Sunday #14
iCE for deporting hard working law-abiding immigrants MadameButterfly Sunday #15
Yet megachurches and their multimillion dollar con artists Ruby the Liberal Saturday #7
Probably because most of those items... SickOfTheOnePct Saturday #9
yeah but if you believe in that, Federal taxes should go down MadameButterfly Sunday #16
Yep. We're just straight-up funding the end of democracy at this point. And little to nothing else. Karasu Saturday #11
Pretty much what i enumerated in #15 MadameButterfly Sunday #17
My kids have started asking me this. AllyCat Saturday #12
Someone suggested to me that with half the IRS cut MadameButterfly Sunday #18
I've reminded them the cuts at IRS were to help the rich AllyCat Sunday #20
330 million vs. 1 dickhead rickyhall Saturday #13
Really unfathomable how we can't overcome MadameButterfly Sunday #19

Amaryllis

(10,577 posts)
5. "We" are not allowing this. Many of us are working many hours a week in the resistance.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 11:33 AM
Saturday

See Indivisible One Million Rising.

Farmer-Rick

(11,875 posts)
4. I remember people bemoaning Greece as austerity
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 10:44 AM
Saturday

Was forced down the throats of the average Greek citizen in order to be eligible for an EU loan.

People said Greece allowed their filthy-rich to pay so little in taxes, it lead to the need for constant loans to the government to pay for general functions. It was all Greece's own fault for not holding their rich oligarchs to account.

As federal employees pensions were ended, as the Greek form of Social Security went unfunded, as retirement age was increased, as government services disappeared and roads and infrastructure were left to crumble, Greece was able to dig out of the hole of debt it was put into. All because their filthy-rich refused to pay their taxes.

Austerity, the stupidest idea for paying off the rich ever invented. Coming back soon to a government near you.

kkmarie

(271 posts)
6. I've been saying this about our paying taxes for months
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 12:00 PM
Saturday

Doing the math what does the government need our tax money?
The regime is cutting services, programs and workforce. The things our taxes supported if those things are gone or greatly reduced we regular grunts should be getting a tax cut. It's not like we have relied on the rich for their tax contribution in decades now.

Where's our tax money going to go?

efhmc

(15,716 posts)
8. My guess is military or building structures and roads near the Nazi's new commercial "endeavors".
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 03:24 PM
Saturday

yliza

(164 posts)
10. Pete Hegseth's makeup studio and Kristi Noem's cosplaying
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 04:13 PM
Saturday

Repukes spend taxpayer money like drunken sailors when in office.

MadameButterfly

(3,287 posts)
15. iCE for deporting hard working law-abiding immigrants
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 02:47 AM
Sunday

and building detentions centers to keep them in, here and abroad
plus:
Tax cuts for the wealthy
A Cryptocurrency reserve that is guaranteed to lose most of it's value over time
Trump's legal defense and lawsuits
Deploying the military on it's own citizens
Paying farmers for their losses from tarriffs, cutting SNAP, and ending USAID
Trump jetting back and forth between DC and Mara Lago and putting up the Secret Service at luxury hotel rates
Bombing Iran, Panama, and Greenland
Cover loss in tax revenue from:
--cutting the IRS
---dwindling foreign travellers
---tarrifs
---loss of immigrant labor resulting in food scarcity, reduction in housing, people staying home to take care of elderly
---more job loss from closing of universities, fired federal workers, end of Department of Education and other agencies
---explosion of homeless people
---closings of hospitals and nursing homes from Medicaid cuts
---more people staying home to care for sick and eldery or just too sick to go to work themselves
---more people dying

Ruby the Liberal

(26,515 posts)
7. Yet megachurches and their multimillion dollar con artists
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 02:26 PM
Saturday

don't have to pay a dime.

Oh, and to that crowd? Jesus' own words (those are the red ones in the book you are using as a paperweight): “Then render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s; and to God the things that are God’s.”

That means pay your damn taxes so that Caesar can keep the roads and bridges up to date and provide education and healthcare.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,993 posts)
9. Probably because most of those items...
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 03:26 PM
Saturday

...should be paid for with state/local taxes, not federal.

Perhaps federal taxes should supplement, but the bulk of the money for those things should be generated locally.

MadameButterfly

(3,287 posts)
16. yeah but if you believe in that, Federal taxes should go down
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 02:49 AM
Sunday

so the states can tax more. You can't shift burdens from feds to states but keep the tax dollars for the Feds.

Karasu

(1,640 posts)
11. Yep. We're just straight-up funding the end of democracy at this point. And little to nothing else.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 08:40 PM
Saturday

Last edited Sat Jul 19, 2025, 10:20 PM - Edit history (1)

AllyCat

(18,075 posts)
12. My kids have started asking me this.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 08:57 PM
Saturday

They are thinking they will just stop paying taxes.

I’ve warned them of the risks but really, what’s the point?

MadameButterfly

(3,287 posts)
18. Someone suggested to me that with half the IRS cut
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 02:55 AM
Sunday

they wonder if they could go after tax cheats. They just don't have the manpower.
Not recommending you try it though. Instead of a penalty these days they could throw you in a gulag in a foreign country or a swamp where you either get eaten by mosquitos or alligators.

MadameButterfly

(3,287 posts)
19. Really unfathomable how we can't overcome
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 02:58 AM
Sunday

any one man, but an eighty-something-year-old idiot in make up with dementia and a diaper?

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