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"The dam is breaking" regarding Epstein: (Original Post) demmiblue Saturday OP
Julie Brown malaise Saturday #1
The dam breaking may well be true bucolic_frolic Saturday #2
The book is very good, but horrifying. She's braver than I think I am. Scrivener7 Saturday #3
Thar she blows! tanyev Saturday #4
DAMN! GiqueCee Saturday #9
I'll believe it when I see it. I won't get my hopes up chicoescuela Saturday #5
Yeah, it won't be the first time PatSeg Saturday #16
I feel ya. No more "Fitzmas"es JHB Saturday #17
I'm giving it "24 business hours" before it breaks. madinmaryland Saturday #31
Right !!! It does seem like a distraction away from worsening econ numbers uponit7771 Saturday #21
All the evidence is in possession of the .... Dave says Saturday #22
Ben Meiselas posted on Meidas Touch's You Tube Channel BlueKota Saturday #6
Julie K Brown knows what is in the files johnnyfins Saturday #7
Mixed metaphors... GiqueCee Saturday #8
Thanks for tip. I just put Brown's "Perversian of Justice" on library hold. txwhitedove Saturday #10
Thank you. I just did the same. niyad Saturday #12
I thought this when the letter story hit and blew up immediately ms liberty Saturday #11
But it's fake news. twodogsbarking Saturday #13
Remember Trump boasting he could shoot someone Emile Saturday #14
The media is underplaying the Clinton factor. louis-t Saturday #15
And that built on a quarter-century of Clinton-demonizing JHB Saturday #18
I always thought tsf shares more in common with Stalin BlueKota Saturday #23
I agree there is a lack of calling out tsf when he says louis-t Sunday #35
Post removed Post removed Saturday #19
If it's the WSJ, then Murdoch could be the one to take him down. tinrobot Saturday #20
The Walls Are Closing In, Again Cowpunk Saturday #24
Turns out Epstein is at the center of right wing conspiracy theories about corrupt elites controlling the deep state andym Saturday #25
Repubes need to clamber out of their moral sewer, get to higher ethical ground BoRaGard Saturday #26
This message was self-deleted by its author republianmushroom Saturday #27
new meidas video normalynn Saturday #28
I really don't like their dramatics, tbh. demmiblue Saturday #30
There was nothing new in the video. I had heard about this before he was "elected" mucifer Saturday #33
The donor class got their tax break - now they're out Ruby the Liberal Saturday #29
Merry Fitzmas!! Wednesdays Saturday #32
That worked out well ... cliffside Sunday #34

bucolic_frolic

(51,507 posts)
2. The dam breaking may well be true
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 08:33 AM
Saturday

but without political power, what can be done about this? I expect repression all the way to the midterms. Fear is their tool. Plus it's not Donnie making decisions, and while there is no brain trust, they're experienced at manufacturing lies.

PatSeg

(50,622 posts)
16. Yeah, it won't be the first time
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 10:25 AM
Saturday

So like you, I won't get my hopes up yet, but I'm always open to the prospect of his demise.

Dave says

(5,186 posts)
22. All the evidence is in possession of the ....
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 11:13 AM
Saturday

… of the fascists. Nothing will come of this that even leaves a dent in Trump’s armor. The fascists need to be cleaned out, first, and watched as they leave the building. Stopped this time if anyone is carrying any boxes.

With all the fascists gone, DC will be a sparsely populated, lonely place.

BlueKota

(4,400 posts)
6. Ben Meiselas posted on Meidas Touch's You Tube Channel
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 09:00 AM
Saturday

that they obtained actual video of the creepy way tsf was acting around the contestants at one of the beauty pagents. He said it will be released later today from Media's Touch.

I hope at the very least, it will erode his support. No doubt the Cult will scream it's fake, or that he's changed, but the more that comes out, the higher the chance at least some more people might see tsf is exactly the creep we've been telling them he is.

GiqueCee

(2,572 posts)
8. Mixed metaphors...
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 09:43 AM
Saturday

... can be forgiven if this house of cards (!) collapses. Oh, the schadenfreude will be delicious!

ms liberty

(10,404 posts)
11. I thought this when the letter story hit and blew up immediately
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 09:55 AM
Saturday

Murdoch would never have allowed that to be put in print otherwise, IMO.

Emile

(36,004 posts)
14. Remember Trump boasting he could shoot someone
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 10:20 AM
Saturday

and not lose any voters.

Ain't nothing gonna happen to this pos.

louis-t

(24,421 posts)
15. The media is underplaying the Clinton factor.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 10:25 AM
Saturday

For 10 years or more, maga has been lead to believe it is Clinton and a cabal of cannibalistic pedophiles on the 'list'. This is what they have been drooling over. This is why they are so enraged. If it turns out there are mostly republicans on the list? Everybody duck.

JHB

(37,790 posts)
18. And that built on a quarter-century of Clinton-demonizing
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 10:51 AM
Saturday

You can just tell from the videos they put out that they (the Trumpniks*) think we're as cultish for Clinton as they are for Trump. They can't wrap their heads around the notion that Clinton may have viewed Epstein's orbit as "concentration of megarich = fundraising feeding ground" but if he was actually a "customer" we're fine with the legal equivalent of roasting him alive. We backed him once over a blatant hypocritical hit job, but that ship has sank.

*I've come to think that we need to start always associating them with the Soviets, not the Nazis. They're starting to openly embrace being Nazis, but treating them as Soviets is triggering.

BlueKota

(4,400 posts)
23. I always thought tsf shares more in common with Stalin
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 11:18 AM
Saturday

than Hitler. Stalin had narcissistic personality disorder too, and was easily manipulated by people who would fake fawning over him. His disdain for those who were critical of him and paranoia was also used to provoke him. My European Studies, history professor, said Hitler snuck phony intelligence into Russia,through double agents, that Stalin's best Generals planned to assinate him. Stalin apparently had them executed, thus weakening Russia 's defense against Germany.

louis-t

(24,421 posts)
35. I agree there is a lack of calling out tsf when he says
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 12:58 PM
Sunday

"I'm going to get all the communists out of government" then turns around and praises communist and authoritarian dictators, calling them "powerful leaders". While China is still ruled by communists, most of the countries are not technically "Communist" anymore, but they are considered very low on the human rights scale. Hungary, Russia, Turkey.

Response to louis-t (Reply #15)

tinrobot

(11,646 posts)
20. If it's the WSJ, then Murdoch could be the one to take him down.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 11:05 AM
Saturday

Murdoch made the monster, now he has a chance to kill the monster.

Straight out of a cheesy B movie.

andym

(6,016 posts)
25. Turns out Epstein is at the center of right wing conspiracy theories about corrupt elites controlling the deep state
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 12:25 PM
Saturday

That's why it's blowing up so big on Trump. Trump exploited such theories to get elected, but now he is not keeping his promise-- primarily because the conspiracy theory is wacko and not going to be supported by evidence, the smoking gun his supporters want doesn't exist AND because he was a good buddy of Epstein perhaps with something to hide.

BoRaGard

(6,400 posts)
26. Repubes need to clamber out of their moral sewer, get to higher ethical ground
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 12:32 PM
Saturday

But they seem committed to swamping around in the moral sewer of their own fouling.

Response to demmiblue (Original post)

mucifer

(25,252 posts)
33. There was nothing new in the video. I had heard about this before he was "elected"
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 07:40 PM
Saturday

people are going to let this slide. It's so gross.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,515 posts)
29. The donor class got their tax break - now they're out
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 02:37 PM
Saturday

Guessing the diamond encrusted bat signal went out to signify it was time to take him out. Lord knows they'd rather deal with someone more competently corrupt like Thiel and his lapdog Vance.

Trump is too embarrassing and the extortion of their sect cant be going over well. Thiel and Vance on the other hand will wire the US Treasury reserves and the Medicare/SSA Trust funds over to their WS casino accounts within the day.

cliffside

(1,047 posts)
34. That worked out well ...
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 12:17 AM
Sunday

I was trying to remember the name from that time at DU, there were so many threads.

Now this from a DU search of Fitzmas and a couple of decades later.


"AI Overview

On the Democratic Underground (DU) forums, "Fitzmas" was a term used around 2005, primarily in reference to the investigation led by Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald into the outing of Valerie Plame as a CIA operative.

This term is essentially a play on "Christmas," expressing a hopeful anticipation among some DU users that the investigation would lead to indictments and reveal wrongdoing within the Bush administration. Some posts even used phrases like "And a very merry Fitzmas to you too" and discussed "the night before Fitzmas".

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