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senseandsensibility

(22,917 posts)
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 02:35 PM Friday

So Mike Johnson went on CNBC this morning and said this about trump:

"His approval ratings are skyrocketing. CNN had a story a day or two ago--he was at a 90 percent approval rating! There's never been a president that high."

As Aaron Rupar put it, "This is truly one of the most outrageous lies I have ever heard, which is really saying something considering how much these folks lie."

I dare anyone to come up with even one example of a Democratic politician who lied to the camera shamelessly and was not called out by the press.

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So Mike Johnson went on CNBC this morning and said this about trump: (Original Post) senseandsensibility Friday OP
Power, money, privilege, and fear are determining the country's course. /nt bucolic_frolic Friday #1
So the press gave the republicon a free pass to lie BoRaGard Friday #2
CNBC badgolfer Friday #7
Thanks for that senseandsensibility Friday #11
The problem is they really believe it Zorro Saturday #73
Disgustpating senseandsensibility Friday #8
Had to look it up. Neat word MaineBlueBear Saturday #69
Did Ruper say that to Johnson's face? No? Well report when someone does. Srkdqltr Friday #3
Rupar wrote that on bluesky senseandsensibility Friday #5
reposted on bluesky vapor2 Friday #12
Could be true... Mike Nelson Friday #4
"There's never been a President that high" leftstreet Friday #6
I was a Chicago Cubs fan back in the 50s when they were really bad rurallib Friday #9
We do that in Colorado every year, now. Bristlecone Friday #41
The harsh reality is... purr-rat beauty Friday #10
Yeah, they are just like him. No surprise. Raven123 Friday #51
Yeah! Trump is almost as popular as Saddam Hussein. Turbineguy Friday #13
And Johnson reminds me of Baghdad Bob. Dave Bowman Friday #31
It's so insulting to be told such blatant lies! Diamond_Dog Friday #14
He has apparently "lost it." He is out-Trumping Trump. kerry-is-my-prez Friday #15
And he is still treated like some kind of reasonable senseandsensibility Friday #16
Li'l Pervy should take a good long look at Marco Rubio, & see what a man who has sold his soul looks like... Hekate Friday #17
I've been noticing that expression on Rubio's face for months senseandsensibility Friday #22
Rick Wilson has an interesting take on Rubio in the last 5 minutes of this screed on Trump.... Hekate Friday #24
For a Jesus Traildogbob Friday #18
Krasnov's neck vagina, or ear vagina? BoRaGard Friday #23
He's twisting the truth - still lying. There was a recent poll that showed him at 90% approval amongst republicans. tulipsandroses Friday #19
Well he specifically quoted CNN senseandsensibility Friday #20
The podcast was talking about the same poll reported on CNN - but they were saying that it was deceptive tulipsandroses Friday #32
See Post 59. tulipsandroses Friday #62
Mike is going to hell now. Emile Friday #21
Lying through omission or willful ignorance The Wizard Saturday #83
Damn, I always wanted to be a part of the ten percent BOSSHOG Friday #25
The seemingly mild-manners Mike Johnson is a sneaky, evil, kiss-ass of the highest order. brush Friday #26
And he's second in line for the Presidency. llmart Friday #33
This message was self-deleted by its author senseandsensibility Friday #35
Me too. And Vance is first. Yuck! Then Johnson, yuck also. Then that kiss ass Rubio whose principles are... brush Friday #36
Early on in this maladministration EuterpeThelo Saturday #74
Yeah. It's depressing as hell. I don't know if our democracy can be saved... brush Saturday #86
3rd. j.d. is second. mwmisses4289 Friday #38
Apologies, y'all are right he is second behind j.d. mwmisses4289 Friday #40
Actually you are right bottomofthehill Saturday #78
History will embarrass these pathetc, ass kissing idiots Demovictory9 Friday #27
The Emperor's clothes have never looked so beautiful Blue Owl Friday #28
Mike Johnson is a shameless toady Picaro Friday #29
Toady is the perfect work to describe him. brush Friday #37
Yes, I feel that it does not get enough use these days senseandsensibility Friday #44
Ditto, ditto, ditto, and so on. brush Friday #47
Weiner boy says "There's never been a president that high". twodogsbarking Friday #30
Mike is playing all fucking sides of the fence right now regarding Trump, solely to his own benefit. He's fucking nuts. Karasu Friday #34
Johnson's Diagnosis: HUHA Donman Friday #39
Hey, Mike Johnson: Jesus thinks you're a fuckhead. Paladin Friday #42
I would suspect it has crept up a point or two but it won't last Warpy Friday #43
Actually it's been trending consistently downward over the past month Wiz Imp Friday #50
"The weird reason Speaker Mike Johnson claimed Trump has a '90% approval rating'" Wiz Imp Friday #45
Thank you for all that information senseandsensibility Friday #46
I might be misremembering the exact details, but I recall Rush Asswart saying TurboDem Friday #63
He is with Republicans doc03 Friday #48
Oh, and the claim that nobody's ever been that high is BS of course. Wiz Imp Friday #49
Thanks for all that fact checking senseandsensibility Friday #67
A YouGov/Economist poll taken 7/11 thru 7/14 (so it would capture some of the Epstein backlash but likely not the full Wiz Imp Friday #52
It would appear that... GiqueCee Friday #53
I wotjed with a RWer who was all about Dark n Stormy Knight Friday #64
90%, eh, Mr. Evil Friday #54
rump's Most Favorable Pollster Has Approval Rating Negative struggle4progress Friday #55
rump's approval rating on immigration and government spending has slipped struggle4progress Friday #57
I wonder how many times kacekwl Friday #56
Mike isn't the brightest turtle on the post struggle4progress Friday #61
90% approval where? In the Republican Congress, in IT's own mind, in Johnson's house? LoisB Friday #58
Why Speaker Mike claimed rump has 90% approval struggle4progress Friday #59
They just keep doing this, and they don't get called on it senseandsensibility Friday #60
No, they do get called on it Metaphorical Saturday #79
Its context driven XCSki Friday #65
Wow! Trigger Warning - biblical reference (wink, wink) GAJMac Friday #66
"witness against your neighbor." It all depends on the GOP's definition of "neighbor". Marcuse Saturday #71
My vote goes to Moses Johnson (MoJo) Seinan Sensei Saturday #72
Trump's Most Favorable Pollster Has Approval Rating Negative for First Time Historic NY Friday #68
well...now...don't get all excited. Trueblue Texan Saturday #70
90% approval, yes Norbert Saturday #75
A "christian" my ass. spanone Saturday #76
The only thing that's high is Mike Johnson. He's stoned from huffing Trump's farts. Ocelot II Saturday #77
Time for everyone to realize... traveler50 Saturday #80
Welcome to DU! senseandsensibility Saturday #85
Approve 42% Disapprove 56% He must have gotten them mixed. LOLOLOL appleannie1 Saturday #81
You have to read between the lines quakerboy Saturday #82
Mickey lies like trump does, often. republianmushroom Saturday #84

badgolfer

(282 posts)
7. CNBC
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 02:44 PM
Friday

The press was Joe Kernan on CNBC giving Johnson a pass.

Kernan is a big buddy of Trump.

MaineBlueBear

(189 posts)
69. Had to look it up. Neat word
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:33 AM
Saturday

The word "disgustipating" is not a standard English word. It appears to be a misspelling or a combination of the words "disgusting" and "incapacitating." The intended meaning is likely related to something that is extremely disgusting and also makes one feel weak or unable to function.

senseandsensibility

(22,917 posts)
5. Rupar wrote that on bluesky
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 02:42 PM
Friday

I agree with his comment. It was the journalist interviewing MJ who had the duty and responsibility to fact check the speaker.

Mike Nelson

(10,664 posts)
4. Could be true...
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 02:41 PM
Friday

... CNN had something about his approval rating among certain groups. He could have seen a 90% approval rating among pedophiles.

rurallib

(63,924 posts)
9. I was a Chicago Cubs fan back in the 50s when they were really bad
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 02:45 PM
Friday

and a friend back then told me to turn the baseball standings upside down every day when I looked at them. That way the Cubs would be on top from opening day to the end of the season!

Seems like old 'Moses' Johnson is using the same trick with another loser of mythic proportions.

purr-rat beauty

(752 posts)
10. The harsh reality is...
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 02:46 PM
Friday

....these vultures are circling the rotting asshole. They know full well if they continue to kiss his ass he won't influence their status (ie: power through the vote). He is allowing them to be corrupt as long as they throw cover for him with his scandals. But little does he know....it's the power they want to keep ahold of after he's gone, they don't give a fuck about him as a person.

Hekate

(98,589 posts)
17. Li'l Pervy should take a good long look at Marco Rubio, & see what a man who has sold his soul looks like...
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 03:04 PM
Friday

Someday you, too, could have dead eyes staring out of your face. And no smile — personally, I would love to see the smile wiped off your face, L’il Pervy.

senseandsensibility

(22,917 posts)
22. I've been noticing that expression on Rubio's face for months
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 03:12 PM
Friday

At first, I thought he was suffering from a guilty conscience, because people I respect claim that he knows better. But now I just think he's in full cult mode.

Traildogbob

(11,517 posts)
18. For a Jesus
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 03:05 PM
Friday

Man that evidently disapproves of pleasurable sex, he knows exactly where the Clit in trumps neck vagina is. Does his son get automatic video feed on his phone when daddy tickles trumps neck clit?

BoRaGard

(6,400 posts)
23. Krasnov's neck vagina, or ear vagina?
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 03:12 PM
Friday

Last edited Fri Jul 18, 2025, 03:47 PM - Edit history (1)

* Asking for those tender innocent souls who may not grok the subtleties of G.O.P. BrownNosing depravities.

tulipsandroses

(7,690 posts)
19. He's twisting the truth - still lying. There was a recent poll that showed him at 90% approval amongst republicans.
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 03:05 PM
Friday

Take that with a grain of salt -
I heard that on a podcast - They also noted that the poll was prior to the Epstein blow up.
They also said that the poll did not include " irregular" voters - voters that showed up for trump last election - those voters probably helped him win. The voters from the manosphere, etc.

tulipsandroses

(7,690 posts)
32. The podcast was talking about the same poll reported on CNN - but they were saying that it was deceptive
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 03:29 PM
Friday

because this was only republican voters and before the epstein blow up. I don't remember the name of the poll, I'll see if I can find it. Their explanation was this was just a bunch of MAGA voters.

tulipsandroses

(7,690 posts)
62. See Post 59.
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 05:11 PM
Friday
But if we take a closer look at the same CNN poll, it showed the president’s approval rating with just Republican voters at 88% — near the 90% figure that Johnson referenced.

And therein lies the point: The House speaker pitched a seemingly ridiculous figure, not just to deceive the public, but also because from his perspective, Democrats literally don’t count.


Emile

(36,004 posts)
21. Mike is going to hell now.
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 03:11 PM
Friday

The Ninth Commandment, "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor."

The Wizard

(13,275 posts)
83. Lying through omission or willful ignorance
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 12:34 PM
Saturday

are both forms of lying. Speaker Johnson can't help it, lying without compunction is in the GQP DNA. And in Trump's case it's pathological.

brush

(60,608 posts)
26. The seemingly mild-manners Mike Johnson is a sneaky, evil, kiss-ass of the highest order.
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 03:21 PM
Friday

90 percent approval ratings for trump...in pedo households maybe.

Response to llmart (Reply #33)

brush

(60,608 posts)
36. Me too. And Vance is first. Yuck! Then Johnson, yuck also. Then that kiss ass Rubio whose principles are...
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 03:40 PM
Friday

Last edited Sat Jul 19, 2025, 01:32 PM - Edit history (2)

whatever trump tells Li'l Mario they are.

EuterpeThelo

(62 posts)
74. Early on in this maladministration
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 09:14 AM
Saturday

my lifelong BFF and I went down the line of succession and I've rarely felt SO depressed by an exercise. It was at least fifteen people down the line before you could get to anyone who wasn't just a malicious, stupid, lying kiss ass on their face. Sometimes it feels like getting rid of these fascists would be like trying to remove a Borg.

brush

(60,608 posts)
86. Yeah. It's depressing as hell. I don't know if our democracy can be saved...
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 04:17 PM
Saturday

as magas hold all the reins of power... the WH, SCOTUS, the Senate and the House. And they all seem to be in on the takeover, except a few district and circuit court judges...who the Supreme Court can overrule.

bottomofthehill

(9,215 posts)
78. Actually you are right
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 09:45 AM
Saturday

There is the president, first in line behind him is the VP second in line behind him is the Speaker, third behind him in the President Pro Temp of the Senate then you get to the Cabinet starting with the Secretary of State

senseandsensibility

(22,917 posts)
44. Yes, I feel that it does not get enough use these days
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 03:51 PM
Friday

And it could describe the entire R Congress (House and Senate) as well as the press.

twodogsbarking

(14,455 posts)
30. Weiner boy says "There's never been a president that high".
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 03:24 PM
Friday

You can take that many ways, in context or out of context.

Karasu

(1,640 posts)
34. Mike is playing all fucking sides of the fence right now regarding Trump, solely to his own benefit. He's fucking nuts.
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 03:38 PM
Friday

"He's the most popular president ever! Oh, also, we should release the Epstein files."

Donman

(29 posts)
39. Johnson's Diagnosis: HUHA
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 03:45 PM
Friday

HEAD UP HIS ASS. He will need a separate casket for his Pinocchionose when he is ready to meet Jesus.

Paladin

(31,072 posts)
42. Hey, Mike Johnson: Jesus thinks you're a fuckhead.
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 03:49 PM
Friday

And as you know: Jesus is never, ever wrong...

Warpy

(113,703 posts)
43. I would suspect it has crept up a point or two but it won't last
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 03:51 PM
Friday

It has crept up because he's slowly coming to terms tbat while Putin is flattering him and being charming, he's also a snake and a liar and a murderer. King Prat has had a terrible and prolonged time coming to the realization that he's not the charmer and deal maker, Putin is. It's been even harder for him to realize he's been played for a sucker, that's still a work in progress.

In any case, the uptick won't last because his fucking stupid tariffs are starting to make themselves felt in the economy by higher inflation.

You know, just like Powell said they would.

Wiz Imp

(6,078 posts)
45. "The weird reason Speaker Mike Johnson claimed Trump has a '90% approval rating'"
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 03:52 PM
Friday

From Steve Benen on MaddowBlog:

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/weird-reason-speaker-mike-johnson-claimed-trump-90-approval-rating-rcna219651

Consider the CNN poll the congressman was referring to. The network’s national survey actually showed Trump with a 42% approval rating, which was roughly in line with recent averages. In fact, The New York Times has a frequently updated graph, reflecting polling averages, and it currently shows 52% of the public disapproves of the president, while 44% approve.

Far from “skyrocketing,” Trump’s public support is roughly at its lowest point of his second term. But if we take a closer look at the same CNN poll, it showed the president’s approval rating with just Republican voters at 88% — near the 90% figure that Johnson referenced. And therein lies the point: The House speaker pitched a seemingly ridiculous figure, not just to deceive the public, but also because from his perspective, Democrats literally don’t count.

This comes up in GOP politics with unnerving frequency. When Trump celebrated the House vote on the party’s far-right domestic policy megabill, the president said it passed with 218 supporters, and only two opponents. In reality, it passed 218-214, but 218-2 figure was correct if one pretended that Democrats didn’t exist.

He did this in his first term, too. After Trump’s first impeachment, there was a Senate trial, and on the first article of impeachment, 48 senators voted “guilty,” while 52 voted “not guilty.” The president declared soon after, “In the Senate, other than Romney, we got 52 to nothing.”

senseandsensibility

(22,917 posts)
46. Thank you for all that information
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 03:56 PM
Friday

I don't mean to discount it, but MJ knows exactly what he is doing. By fudging the numbers and quoting only R results without saying that that is what he is doing, he is intentionally misleading. There is no way that a Dem could EVER get away with that. And yes, as you point out, they keep doing it because the press does not call them out.

TurboDem

(325 posts)
63. I might be misremembering the exact details, but I recall Rush Asswart saying
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 05:27 PM
Friday

something to the effect of (paraphrasing) "From now on I'm going to talk to you people as if the democrats don't even exist." Nothing they say counts for anything." Something like that. It wasn't long after he said that that Jerry Falltohell and Pats Roberts dong were talking the same way.

It looks like the greedy ole pervert party is still clinging to that way of thinking.

Wiz Imp

(6,078 posts)
49. Oh, and the claim that nobody's ever been that high is BS of course.
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 04:03 PM
Friday

Multiple Presidents had approval ratings among ALL voters higher than Trump's high approval rating amongst only Republicans.

George W. Bush's approval rating was as high as 92% (with ALL voters) just after the 9/11 attacks.

George H.W. Bush's approval rating was 89% (with ALL voters) a month into his term.

Harry S. Truman's approval rating was 87% (with ALL voters) in June of 1945.

Even Barak Obama's approval rating was as high as 76% (with ALL voters) about 2 weeks into his first term

FDR, JFK & LBJ also all had approval ratings which peaked at 80% or higher.

https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/presidential-approval/highslows

senseandsensibility

(22,917 posts)
67. Thanks for all that fact checking
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 05:57 PM
Friday

It's suspicious to me that these highly paid "journalists" don't seem to be able to do what you just did, at least not when R's are misleading them.

Wiz Imp

(6,078 posts)
52. A YouGov/Economist poll taken 7/11 thru 7/14 (so it would capture some of the Epstein backlash but likely not the full
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 04:20 PM
Friday

effect) has Trump at only 84% approval amongst his own voters.

https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/econTabReport_fFL8Pon.pdf

GiqueCee

(2,572 posts)
53. It would appear that...
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 04:32 PM
Friday

... "Moses" Johnson requires a remedial reading of the 9th Commandment: "THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS."
Try to parse it all you want, Mikey, you asshole, it STILL means DO NOT LIE! And no, crossing your fingers doesn't absolve you. And don't drag your poor son into this, either; he's got enough emotional problems trying to curb your weinie-whacking to internet porn.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,414 posts)
64. I wotjed with a RWer who was all about
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 05:28 PM
Friday

her "Christianity." She said god doesn't mind lying if it's to support RWers or some such weasley nonsense.

She would regularly assign her third grade class coloring papers so she could sit at her desk & do her home banking, bill paying, online shopping, etc. She said Jesus/God was just fine with that, too.

Face it, the RW reinvented Jesus as someone who agrees with them--their own fears, hatreds, weaknesses, etc., not someone whose teachings they must agree with & follow.

Mr. Evil

(3,351 posts)
54. 90%, eh,
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 04:34 PM
Friday

Isn't that usually about the return for Putin in Russian elections? 90%... give me a fucking break.

I'm not a religious freak or a believer in magic words, ceremonies and rituals. But, we do, from time to time, get to see in real time how easy it is to sell one's soul.

struggle4progress

(123,806 posts)
55. rump's Most Favorable Pollster Has Approval Rating Negative
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 04:38 PM
Friday

Published Jul 18, 2025 at 10:38 AM EDT
By Martha McHardy
US News Reporter

... The polling comes after Trump had seen an uptick in approval ratings in several polls following an earlier plunge to an all-time low for his second term after protests in Los Angeles and airstrikes in Iran.

But new polls indicate Trump's approval rating is slipping. If the trend continues, Democrats could regain ground they lost last cycle, reshaping the 2026 midterms and the broader balance of power heading into 2028 ...

The downward trend marks a sharp contrast to earlier in the year. In May, Big Data Poll had Trump narrowly above water at +1 (48 percent approve, 47 percent disapprove). That figure was already a notable drop from January, shortly after Trump returned to office, when the pollster recorded one of his strongest ratings: 56 percent approval and 37 percent disapproval, a net positive of +19 ...

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-approval-rating-negative-polls-low-2100704

struggle4progress

(123,806 posts)
57. rump's approval rating on immigration and government spending has slipped
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 04:41 PM
Friday

By STEVE PEOPLES and LINLEY SANDERS
Updated 11:44 AM EDT, July 17, 2025

WASHINGTON (AP) — Only about one-quarter of U.S. adults say that President Donald Trump’s policies have helped them since he took office, according to a new poll that finds underwhelming marks for him on key issues, including the economy, immigration, government spending and health care ...

In fact, the Republican president fails to earn majority approval on any of the issues included in the poll from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research. He’s even slipped slightly since earlier this year on immigration, which has consistently been a strength for him in his second term ...

Roughly half of U.S. adults report that Trump’s policies have “done more to hurt” them since his second term began six months ago, the survey found. About 2 in 10 say his policies have “not made a difference” in their lives, with about one-quarter saying his policies have “done more to help” them ...

https://apnews.com/article/poll-trump-approval-policies-economy-health-immigration-45681b8cd07782ba7a143d323efe9dd7

kacekwl

(8,473 posts)
56. I wonder how many times
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 04:39 PM
Friday

Johnson was pantsed and stuffed in a locker in his younger days ? Maybe even this month.

struggle4progress

(123,806 posts)
59. Why Speaker Mike claimed rump has 90% approval
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 04:45 PM
Friday

July 18, 2025, 2:49 PM EDT
By Steve Benen

A few months ago, Arkansas Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders appeared on Fox News and boasted that Donald Trump’s approval rating was “soaring.” It wasn’t: The Republican governor just made that up.

Around the same time, Alina Habba, a Trump-appointed acting U.S. attorney, also boasted on Fox News that the president’s public support was “skyrocketing,” with an approval rating that has reached “an all-time high of anyone.” That was false, too ...

... the president has repeatedly demonstrated that he has an unnerving habit of making up approval ratings for himself. And at first blush, that’s the easy explanation for why Johnson would peddle such an absurdity to a national television audience ...

Consider the CNN poll the congressman was referring to. The network’s national survey actually showed Trump with a 42% approval rating, which was roughly in line with recent averages. In fact, The New York Times has a frequently updated graph, reflecting polling averages, and it currently shows 52% of the public disapproves of the president, while 44% approve ...

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/weird-reason-speaker-mike-johnson-claimed-trump-90-approval-rating-rcna219651

Metaphorical

(2,472 posts)
79. No, they do get called on it
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 10:36 AM
Saturday

Just not by the corporate (Trump) friendly media.

We have an echo chamber effect here. Traditional corporate media is dying: its influence on the Internet is and has been fading for a long time, but that media still has an outsized influence in Washington, DC.

The corporate media is an odd beast. It doesn't necessarily reflect reality. Its audience is and always has been a core cadre of influential power movers and shakers. Those who follow that media of course want to be part of that cadre, but generally aren't. This is what many people, even many Democrats, don't really understand - such media really don't care about anyone unless they are in the group they want to influence.

At the same time, when the influential become uncomfortable (even worried) about how they themselves are being perceived, the media mogul faces a problem - do they curry favor with the autocrat if it reduces its influence on its core group, or do they become more adversarial.

This is why the Epstein case is such a big deal. Pedophilia is condemned because as a society we are (theoretically) protective of our children. It's a very dark stain on one's reputation precisely because of that condemnation, and while these people may be morally bankrupt, the image that they want to project about themselves falls apart when they are seen to support such heinous activity. Moreover, this is an absolute case of guilt by association: if you are as associate of a leader who is believed to be a pedophile, does this mean that you are a pedophile also? Whether or not they actually are is irrelevant, it is the belief that is important here, and it is a belief that is remarkably difficult to dispel once established.

The rube farmer in the MAGA hat is a frequent target on DU, but he or she is also a distraction. The real danger comes from the corporate executives and eight+ figure investors who quietly backed Trump in order to gain fiscal and power advantages of their own, who don't really care about his morals, but do care about the perception of their own by their own backers. Right now, they are weathering the storm, hoping that something will come along to get the issue out of the news cycle, but Trump's past IS catching up to him, and the more that others get splattered with his s**t, the more THEY will call for his removal.

Ironically, this is a vicious cycle, because those calls of course amplify Trump's many failings, which only increases the blowback on his moneyed supporters. They are now wondering whether it is time that Trump be fired and replaced with someone who doesn't have all of the man's baggage. Trump's attitude is to cow the corporate media, but that only works for so long before fear of Trump becomes replaced by fear of a loss of reputation in that media's core constituency because of Trump.

XCSki

(21 posts)
65. Its context driven
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 05:37 PM
Friday

Sure, 90% among his gop boot licking lock steppers who clearly adore felons and rapists.

GAJMac

(246 posts)
66. Wow! Trigger Warning - biblical reference (wink, wink)
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 05:43 PM
Friday

“You shall not bear false witness.”
Do this often enough (read this as "be a Standard Republican&quot the Bible says that “you are of your Father the devil” (John 8:44) and you will spend all eternity with Satan in Hell.

So much for Moses Johnson.

Marcuse

(8,546 posts)
71. "witness against your neighbor." It all depends on the GOP's definition of "neighbor".
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 08:38 AM
Saturday

Same as "Love your neighbor.."

Seinan Sensei

(1,067 posts)
72. My vote goes to Moses Johnson (MoJo)
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 08:56 AM
Saturday

As Speaker of the House of Perdition
Always and forever.
In perpetuity

Trueblue Texan

(3,487 posts)
70. well...now...don't get all excited.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 07:50 AM
Saturday

He just failed to qualify his statement. What he meant was, TSF's approval skyrocketed to 90 percent among the pedophiles in our nation. So he left out that little qualifier...no biggie. Don't take his words out of the actual context in which they are, in fact, true.

spanone

(139,652 posts)
76. A "christian" my ass.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 09:25 AM
Saturday

His legacy will be destroying the good ole USA and supporting a 34 times convicted felon and abjudicated rapist.

Fuck this shitstain.

Ocelot II

(126,066 posts)
77. The only thing that's high is Mike Johnson. He's stoned from huffing Trump's farts.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 09:25 AM
Saturday

Who ya gonna believe, me or your lyin' eyes?

traveler50

(8 posts)
80. Time for everyone to realize...
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 10:46 AM
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That media is owned by Republicans. There will never be fair and balanced reporting until the laws change.

appleannie1

(5,299 posts)
81. Approve 42% Disapprove 56% He must have gotten them mixed. LOLOLOL
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 11:38 AM
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What are the media organizations afraid of? Tell the damn truth. That is your JOB.

quakerboy

(14,454 posts)
82. You have to read between the lines
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 12:06 PM
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And pay attention to the unspoken parts.

"he was at a 90% approval rating (among those we plan to allow to vote)"

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