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Botany

(74,875 posts)
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 09:45 AM Jul 18

I think The Powers That Be are done with Krasnov. He has served his purpose.

All of this stuff about Trump has been known for years. The stories of underage women, studio 54 w/
the cocaine and sex parties, Epstein, walking in on teen beauty contestants when they were naked,
saying his own daughter was a hot piece of ass, his connections to organized crime, to having call
girls working @ his casinos, and so on are old news. Why now? They got their tax breaks, regulations
have been gutted, and benefits to the rich and fossil fuel industries and so it is good bye Donny time.
He has served his purpose.

And the T.P.T.B./tech- crypto boys now have a shiny new judicial & electoral system to keep them
in power and money too.

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I think The Powers That Be are done with Krasnov. He has served his purpose. (Original Post) Botany Jul 18 OP
Could be. Turbineguy Jul 18 #1
Enter Vance. yardwork Jul 18 #2
And crypto currency will become the new coin of the realm. Botany Jul 18 #4
Literally, I think. Joinfortmill Jul 18 #25
It won't stop with that, though. OldBaldy1701E Jul 18 #34
Time for a modern "Cross of Gold" speech! ChazInAz Jul 18 #35
That makes sense. Thank you. OLDMDDEM Jul 18 #3
Although I have been wrong before Botany Jul 18 #10
Interesting. So was I. OLDMDDEM Jul 18 #11
I always disliked Woody Allen. n/t PatrickforB Jul 18 #26
there may be a few atrocities they still want to blame on trump rampartd Jul 18 #5
Shutting down NOAA's Climate Observatory on Mauna Loa in Hawaii is the goal of the Fossil Fuel Industries Botany Jul 18 #16
Stop me if you think that you've heard this one before... Prairie Gates Jul 18 #6
Yup. They just wanted his signature on that Big Bad Bill. He has become a liability. travelingthrulife Jul 18 #7
Agree, But .... WiVoter Jul 18 #8
That's why his niece titled her first book as "Too Much and Never Enough". LastDemocratInSC Jul 18 #17
Yup WiVoter Jul 18 #22
One can hope. MineralMan Jul 18 #9
We'll see. I have serious doubts awesomerwb1 Jul 18 #12
Revenge of the Tech Bros usonian Jul 18 #13
I think you may have found the answer!! Peacetrain Jul 18 #14
I agree. Posted that a couple of times here oregonjen Jul 18 #15
"They" can no longer hide his cognitive dissembling. Botany Jul 18 #18
and yet we had to get rid of biden beccause of the socalled same stuff and we got trump. AllaN01Bear Jul 18 #27
Been seeing him as the Trojan Horse for some time EverHopeful Jul 18 #19
Did Murdoch seek out incriminating evidence or did Ghislaine Maxwell proffer it up? Arazi Jul 18 #20
I think we can assume, they dont want Lara Johonny Jul 18 #21
I agree. And they will run a little fake commission on the topic, contain the spread of truth, and move on. Nt lostnfound Jul 18 #23
My take as well. orangecrush Jul 18 #24
Are you suggesting Krasnov won't finish his term? Martin Eden Jul 18 #28
Maybe so, but I don't think they'll be able to get rid of him very easily using the 25th Amendment. Ocelot II Jul 18 #29
And they have all our personal data Wicked Blue Jul 18 #30
We'll see. johnnyfins Jul 18 #31
Yeah, they've gotten what they wanted and Krasnov is threatening to become an GoodRaisin Jul 18 #32
Krasnov is gonna declare of having he's having health issues, step down, and walk away a billionaire. Botany Jul 18 #37
Powers That Be gfarber Jul 18 #33
No personality Vance can't hold them together lame54 Jul 18 #36

Botany

(74,875 posts)
4. And crypto currency will become the new coin of the realm.
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 09:53 AM
Jul 18

He is Peter Theil’s poodle.

OldBaldy1701E

(8,480 posts)
34. It won't stop with that, though.
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 12:25 PM
Jul 18

Vance is the puppet of some very radical right wing conservatives who are rich and who want us to go back to being little more than a serfdom.

And he will do whatever they want him to.

Then, there is his own racism and ignorance. He will be completely on board with full-on 'safety patrols' and whatever else he needs to assure his owners that he is solely in their camp and will never aid anyone but them, as well as keeping the rabble in line to keep on making the rich richer.

I am more concerned about him than the orange gibbon, to be honest.

Botany

(74,875 posts)
10. Although I have been wrong before
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 10:20 AM
Jul 18

@ one time I liked and was a fan of Joe Paterno, Woody Allen, and Bill Cosby.

rampartd

(2,247 posts)
5. there may be a few atrocities they still want to blame on trump
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 09:59 AM
Jul 18

the crypto heist seems like the big one pending.

Botany

(74,875 posts)
16. Shutting down NOAA's Climate Observatory on Mauna Loa in Hawaii is the goal of the Fossil Fuel Industries
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 10:28 AM
Jul 18

and Trump is 100% on board with that. That observatory has been the gold standard for climate
data for 70 years and the facts don’t lie. CO 2 is building up end of story.

travelingthrulife

(2,946 posts)
7. Yup. They just wanted his signature on that Big Bad Bill. He has become a liability.
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 10:07 AM
Jul 18

They should just have him visit Vlad.

WiVoter

(1,391 posts)
8. Agree, But ....
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 10:10 AM
Jul 18

Human nature seems to be the more a person gets the more they want. They can never get enough, they are never satisfied.

MineralMan

(149,573 posts)
9. One can hope.
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 10:11 AM
Jul 18

I'm one who does. I'm not confident in that hope, though. I've been disappointed too often already.

awesomerwb1

(4,808 posts)
12. We'll see. I have serious doubts
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 10:23 AM
Jul 18

I was on twitter last night reading the comments and trump still has very strong support. You wouldn't believe the amount of tweets against musk (from magas with "Christian" in their profiles) because he said something about the Epstein files. What a horrible horrible bunch.

usonian

(19,391 posts)
13. Revenge of the Tech Bros
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 10:24 AM
Jul 18

Unless I'm mistaken, Vance is aligned with the Tech Bros who gave Trump a second term.

Yes, One of them got pretty butt-hurt after spending bigly. I believe that Vance was always the poster boy for the fascist branch of Silicon Valley.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220008207

Hoping for some CT's that will neuter JD.

Spiro Agnew style. What comes next, nobody knows.

Cue the auctioneer.

oregonjen

(3,573 posts)
15. I agree. Posted that a couple of times here
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 10:28 AM
Jul 18

He’s an old ill narcissistic bumbling fool. Way past his usefulness. Why on earth would they release ANY sort of health info other than he is the most healthiest person alive bologna they usually say?

Botany

(74,875 posts)
18. "They" can no longer hide his cognitive dissembling.
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 10:46 AM
Jul 18

Canada’s P.M. had to stop his presser because Trump was so out of it and was
speaking complete gibberish.

And I think his usefulness to T.P.T.B. vs his downside are not worth it anymore.

AllaN01Bear

(26,709 posts)
27. and yet we had to get rid of biden beccause of the socalled same stuff and we got trump.
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 11:59 AM
Jul 18

EverHopeful

(568 posts)
19. Been seeing him as the Trojan Horse for some time
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 10:50 AM
Jul 18

Although I really thought they'd gotten far more "Idiot" and far less "Useful" than they'd planned on. Clearly I was wrong.

Arazi

(8,209 posts)
20. Did Murdoch seek out incriminating evidence or did Ghislaine Maxwell proffer it up?
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 10:53 AM
Jul 18

She wants a pardon. Is she reminding Traitor that she has evidence on him?

The Murdochs and Maxwells are publishing rivals. They definitely know each other. Did ole Rupert hunt them down looking for something to use?

I wonder who reached out first

Johonny

(24,271 posts)
21. I think we can assume, they dont want Lara
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 11:00 AM
Jul 18

Or Don Jr. taking over the family business. They thought he was gone 4 years ago, but they didn't drive the stake through his heart. I don't believe they have the guts to do it now either.

lostnfound

(17,110 posts)
23. I agree. And they will run a little fake commission on the topic, contain the spread of truth, and move on. Nt
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 11:07 AM
Jul 18

Martin Eden

(14,674 posts)
28. Are you suggesting Krasnov won't finish his term?
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 12:00 PM
Jul 18

If the orange felon loses a big chunk of his maga support, will he be removed by 25A, or impeachment?

Stroke out on his own, or fall out the proverbial window?

Ocelot II

(126,319 posts)
29. Maybe so, but I don't think they'll be able to get rid of him very easily using the 25th Amendment.
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 12:01 PM
Jul 18

That requires the agreement of the VP, who'd be happy to comply, but also of a majority of the Cabinet. Would a majority of Trump's flunkies want to dump Trump if they knew Vance was likely to replace them with his own flunkies?

johnnyfins

(2,527 posts)
31. We'll see.
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 12:07 PM
Jul 18

I was expecting more than a birthday book. I think Ghislaine was definitely the one who pointed the WSJ to this little(big) piece of evidence.

Since slobby cant keep his mouth shut, expect some rage posting at some point.

GoodRaisin

(10,378 posts)
32. Yeah, they've gotten what they wanted and Krasnov is threatening to become an
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 12:19 PM
Jul 18

economic/foreign policy disaster. This is an ideal time for them to throw Krasnov under the bus and install Vance. I never thought there was much chance they would keep Krasnov the full 4 years.

Botany

(74,875 posts)
37. Krasnov is gonna declare of having he's having health issues, step down, and walk away a billionaire.
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 05:47 PM
Jul 18

@ least that is how I see it happening.

gfarber

(62 posts)
33. Powers That Be
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 12:22 PM
Jul 18

Cheeto Benito, his purpose now spent,
With scandals, long-known, heaven-sent.
Tax breaks in his wake,
No more purpose to make,
By "Powers That Be" he was rent.

That old Donny, his uses all done,
With dirt everyone knew, bar none.
Tax cuts in the bag,
Now he's just a used rag,
By the Powers That Be, he's outrun.

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