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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsStories, such as the one about the "Birthday Card", do not harm Donald Trump.
His MAGA supporters only care about the details of the child sex-ring and stories like the one pushed by the WSJ about his "birthday card" do not move them. It probably helps him if it takes the storyline away from the actual crimes against children or very young girls?
We have to keep our eye on the ball. We may enjoy these juicy side stories, but history has proven that the MAGA supporters could not care less. They like the fact that Trump is threatening to sue WSJ.
There is only one story that they are interested in. We should not allow ourselves to be diverted by shiny objects or juicy tales, in my opinion.

Scrivener7
(56,491 posts)And they have been fed the idea that Epstein is a central figure in Q for years.
Whereas we deplore Epstein, they have made him one of the foundation stones of the movement that gives them their identity.
Cankles has been telling them for years that he'd expose Epstein's cabal of Democratic lizard people, but the moment some light is shined on that cabal, Cankles himself is shown to be the devil's wing man.
B.See
(5,903 posts)I fully expect MAGA to either ignore, dismiss, or pull their usual "to forgive is divine'" bs they deploy whenever one of their own is found guilty of the sht they accuse others of. So maybe this eventually won't harm TSF... no more than anything else he's done has.
But that DOESN'T MATTER.
MAGAS have shown no reluctance in accusing Democrats of being part of some pedo ring, and have willingly deployed characterizations such as 'groomer' or 'predator' against any liberal advocating for the rights of marginalized people.
Have used it in defense of their hate based so-called culture war and to demonize anyone in disagreement with them.
And now they're learning their "chosen one," their "second coming of Christ" is a pedo in Chief. Quite the comeuppance, methinks.
So, yes, ultimately it prolly won't matter to em. But at least they'll KNOW. and so will we.

Irish_Dem
(72,500 posts)At the very least Trump was a frequent client, a child rapist.
And most likely Trump was supplying underage girls.
Scrivener7
(56,491 posts)Irish_Dem
(72,500 posts)They are fine with 6 year olds being slaughtered with military grade weapons as they sit in school.
Fine with children being drowned in flash floods.
Fine with police officers standing around while there is a school shooting in progress.
Scrivener7
(56,491 posts)Irish_Dem
(72,500 posts)lapfog_1
(31,127 posts)helping my nephew with his then pre-teen daughter ( he has PTSD ).
What I can tell you is that there is ( or was ) an epidemic of child sex abuse in rural America.
My grand niece had a group of friends from middle school ( all girls ) and almost ALL of them experienced sex abuse at the age of 12 or younger, from uncles and dads and "friends of he family" etc. Even grandfathers. I guess I have led a sheltered life as I have never encountered such horrors before.
I still can't really process it.
But I think this is the one thing that MAGA can't really get over. They will forgive Trump anything ( rape of an legal age woman ) but not of child rape. Thing is, they have been convinced for DECADES now that Democrats are all child sex abusers and satanic devil worshipers... Many of them thought Trump would expose it all... and now to see that not only will he not expose the Hollywood liberals and Democratic politicians as being part of a huge pedophile ring, but that HE might be part of it ( and maybe one of the main players ) is just breaking what is left of their minds.
Scrivener7
(56,491 posts)I've been sheltered too, thank God.
Irish_Dem
(72,500 posts)They forgive him everything.
And others are pointing out it is the norm in red states?
kentuck
(114,441 posts)...and all they really care about is that the Democrats are executed for their crimes?
Irish_Dem
(72,500 posts)Dems must be jailed or executed for just breathing.
electric_blue68
(22,444 posts)😞😬
But they have to see more than a "birthday card" to believe it.
Irish_Dem
(72,500 posts)The MAGAs are totally demented.
kentuck
(114,441 posts)...but you are probably right. We expect too much from humanity.
Irish_Dem
(72,500 posts)Usually be correct.
travelingthrulife
(2,889 posts)They seem to be completely on board with grown men doing as they please to kids and women. Paternalism sucks.
The interesting one to me will be Melania. So many MAGA women think she is a wonderful, Godly woman, despite mountains of evidence to the contrary. If it is confirmed she was a Lolita, on the Lolita plane humping Trump on their 'first date', the shrieks of slut and harlot can't be far behind. Wait until they add that to her unlikely green card entry into this country. A harlot and an 'illegal'. Maybe Trump will dump her to get back into their good graces.
Irish_Dem
(72,500 posts)The MAGAs dont care what sex crimes the trumps commit. Or any crimes for that matter.
4th
(335 posts)Ocelot II
(126,090 posts)4th
(335 posts)Ocelot II
(126,090 posts)before publishing it. Trump even called Murdoch and threatened him with litigation before the article was published. Trump is bluffing and/or trying to extort money, like he always does, but WSJ says Bring it on.
karynnj
(60,414 posts)The editing did not change the impression one would have of Harris. However, among the many powers Trump abused was to threaten the government would not approve a merger they want.
With the WSJ it is easier. Trump can withhold access to WSJ reporters. If Trump actually sues, he would probably be aiming for a settlement that he will then sell as because it was untrue. Something he does with many other things.
W_HAMILTON
(9,341 posts)Every point you try to make, WSJ would've been well aware of already -- and yet they still published it.
karynnj
(60,414 posts)If WSJ apologizes or concedes wrongdoing, it will be framed that Trump did nothing wrong on his years of association with Epstein.
BoRaGard
(6,410 posts)Paramount cowardly caved. They are not to be trusted.
superpatriotman
(6,725 posts)Or a brain bleed will rid us of the anti-Christ
Prairie Gates
(5,706 posts)The whole "enigmas never get old" and "wonderful secret" stuff is creepy as hell.
Here's the real problem: a lot of MAGAs didn't think any of the Trump Epstein connections were true at all. They thought all the pictures were faked. The reason so many of them are being really weird right now is because they are seeing that some of the stuff they thought was fake is actually true. The video of Trump commenting on women to Epstein is an example. They thought it was all fake. These are the true believer MAGAs who think goofy shit like Trump didn't dodge the draft but went on secret missions to Vietnam. The hardcore nuts.
travelingthrulife
(2,889 posts)Keepthesoulalive
(1,560 posts)Because it would show dems are pedophiles and they could finally get to see democrats go to jail.
It has shaken MAGA , they were promised the files day 1 now there are no files, the democrats set up fake files uh the dog ate the files. This was a huge thing among the faithful. When people in a cult start to wake up their worldview can change. Lets keep piling on. Please stop fearing trumpers , lets out vote them.
cilla4progress
(26,374 posts)Especially with all the hype.
Was alerted on here for saying so! 😳
JI7
(92,338 posts)it suddenly wouldn't be such a non issue anymore.
kentuck
(114,441 posts)...is my understanding.
JI7
(92,338 posts)he did what he thought was beneficial to him.
He is not a democrat and is a Republican.