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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDelta moves toward eliminating set prices in favor of AI that determines how much you personally will pay for a ticket
https://fortune.com/2025/07/16/delta-moves-toward-eliminating-set-prices-in-favor-of-ai-that-determines-how-much-you-personally-will-pay-for-a-ticket/-snip-
Delta accomplishes this pricing through a partnership with Fetcherr, a six-year-old Israeli company that also counts Azul, WestJet, Virgin Atlantic, and VivaAerobus as clients. And it has its sights set beyond flying. Once we will be established in the airline industry, we will move to hospitality, car rentals, cruises, whatever, cofounder Robby Nissan said at a travel conference in 2022.
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AI isnt just optimizing business operations, but fundamentally rewriting the rules of commerce and consumer experience, Matt Britton, author of Generation AI, told Fortune. For consumers, this means the era of fair pricing is over. The price you see is the price the algorithm thinks youll accept, not a universal rate.
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To complicate matters, while industry experts expect the impact of AI to mean more revenue for Delta, the impact for individual passengers is less certain. In the short-term, AI might mean more discounts offered upfront when Delta needs to fill seats, said Leff. Short-term, shoppers might benefit from using a VPN and clearing cookies when browsing for airfares, but long-term, Delta and other airlines might require passengers to be logged in for purchase of tickets in order to obtain status benefits from an airline, essentially being fully within their ecosystem to gain the benefits of that system (i.e. submit to personalized pricing to get extra legroom seats), Leff said. Early research on personalized pricing isnt favorable for the consumer. Consumer Watchdog found that the best deals were offered to the wealthiest customerswith the worst deals given to the poorest people, who are least likely to have other options.

dalton99a
(89,592 posts)Irish_Dem
(72,736 posts)The rest of us will pay through the nose.
Hekate
(98,677 posts)I think I may be done with this form of mass transit but like millions of others, that leaves me a continent away from dear friends.
hatrack
(63,123 posts)Endless, soulless, crust-scratching, turnip-squeezing, shit-breathed greed.
Irish_Dem
(72,736 posts)Americans get used to being scammed quite quickly.
Karasu
(1,697 posts)Irish_Dem
(72,736 posts)For allowing themselves to be so screwed over and over.
No healthcare, education, childcare, paid leave, vacation time etc.
And Americans live in the richest country in the history of the world.
Some Europeans think Americans didn't suffer enough during WWII like the rest of the world.
So dIdn't demand change.
sinkingfeeling
(55,997 posts)economy fare was $660. Went to book my final flight down this month and the same flights are $1320!
DFW
(58,586 posts)And more so if you call them up.
Often, when I know I need to fly somewhere, I check to see what fares and schedules are available. If I find something I think will work, but want to compare with fares elsewhere, if I come back to the original offer, the price will have increased by 10% to 25%. I dont have any way to know if this is true, but it is as if any price inquiry from a certain ip address is immediately communicated Europe-wide so that no airline will ever quote lower, and a repeat inquiry comes back at a higher price than the initial quote.
In my experience, if I cant get my reservation done online, I call the airline as a last resort. They often say, you must be talking about some internet fare. We dont see them, and we are not allowed to sell at those prices.A quick inquiry lends credibility to their we dont see them statement. The accent of the Air France agent on a recent call prompted me to ask where I was talking to. It turned out to be that major hub of French aviation: Santiago, Chile.
multigraincracker
(36,040 posts)Delay, Deny and Defend. Start with Ill look for a better deal elsewhere first. Then I cant afford your price. Third you need to hire better MBAs.
Be interesting to see how AI responds.
AZJonnie
(1,100 posts)Hackers will likely figure out (and disseminate) how to game this bullshit in your favor, if one keeps their ear to the ground to learn the means.
Rstrstx
(1,604 posts)For a ticket to Rio. Let them put that into their algorithm
jmbar2
(7,101 posts)Completely obscures market price discovery. Ominous.
progressoid
(51,669 posts)...just kidding. They ain't doing shit.
Gaugamela
(2,911 posts)and creates a false online persona giving you the appearance of a cheapskate.
Initech
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Karasu
(1,697 posts)This country has completely dropped the ball in refusing to regulate AI. There is no recovering from that.
DFW
(58,586 posts)Does this mean that in the near future, ALL fares will be immediate payment due, non-refundable, non-exchangeable?
While that sounds like something Trump would support, Im betting that would not survive two weeks into the next Democratic administratoon.