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Shellback Squid

(9,546 posts)
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 07:09 PM Jul 16

Trump says there is no list, Bondi says there is no list

There is a list BUT he's not on it, not anymore, nothing linking him to Epstein, it's been removed and possibly destroyed.
They WILL produce a list soon but he will not be on it, and he'll blame the dems and make the magats more loyal and even more hateful for being misled

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Shellback Squid

(9,546 posts)
3. it's a tease, feint, they did this with Bush and his military records, Dan Rather paid the price
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 07:11 PM
Jul 16

wiki:


, On July 8, 2004, the Pentagon reported that the microfilmed payroll records of Bush and numerous other service members had been inadvertently ruined in 1996 and 1997 by the Defense Finance and Accounting Service during a project to salvage deteriorating microfilm. The records lost included those covering July through September 1972, when Bush's claims of service in Alabama were in question, and the Pentagon reported that no paper backups were found.[26][49]

W_HAMILTON

(9,371 posts)
4. Maybe, but there's enough people on the inside that know enough about it that there is sure to be at least one leaker...
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 07:15 PM
Jul 16

...if they try to go the route of destroying/manipulating evidence.

"What's done in the dark, will come to the light."

brush

(60,728 posts)
6. Oh, there's a list all right, squirrelled away on somebody's thrumb drive somewhere....
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 07:19 PM
Jul 16

for when it becomes useful and lucrative. In fact, I'm betting there are several thumb drives squirrelled away somewhere in several peoples' safe places.

sheshe2

(93,020 posts)
8. Maxwell has it, you can bet on it!
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 07:29 PM
Jul 16

I am sure she has put safeguards on it and if anything should happen to her...it will be released.

brush

(60,728 posts)
9. No doubt. But I wouldn't want to be her because even if she gets out...
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 07:44 PM
Jul 16

there's little chance of her surviving for too long as she has too much info on some rich and powerful men.

sheshe2

(93,020 posts)
12. She is an evil woman, but she is not stupid.
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 08:06 PM
Jul 16

As I said, safeguards, it could be released if she dies. It could be released to lawyers, media etc. Jeffery kept all his 'books' in a safe at his house of all places. He was stupid and she is not and that is why she is still alive, and Jeff is dead.

Just my thoughts, but I think it is as safe bet.

azureblue

(2,502 posts)
7. A Letter from Bondi to Patel:
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 07:20 PM
Jul 16

Office of the Attorney General
Washington. O. C. 20530
February 27, 2025

Dear Director Patel,

Before you came into office, I requested the full and complete files related to Jeffrey Epstein. In response to this request, I received approximately 200 pages of documents, which consisted primarily of flight logs. Epstein's list of contacts, and a list of victims' names and phone numbers.

I repeatedly questioned whether this was the full set of documents responsive to my request and was repeatedly assured by the FBI that we had received the full set of documents. Late yesterday, I learned from a source that the FBI Field Office in New York was in possession of thousands of pages of documents related to the investigation and indictment of Epstein. Despite my repeated requests, the FBI never disclosed the existence of these files. When you and I spoke yesterday, you were just as surprised as I was to learn this new information.

By 8:00 a.m. tomorrow, February 28, the FBI will deliver the full and complete Epstein files to my office, including all records, documents, audio and video recordings, and materials related to Jeffrey Epstein and his clients, regardless of how such information was obtained. There will be no withholdings or limitations to my or your access. The Department of Justice will ensure that any public disclosure of these files will be done in a manner to protect the privacy of victims and in accordance with law, as I have done my entire career as a prosecutor.

I am also directing you to conduct an immediate investigation into why my order to the FBI was not followed. You will deliver to me a comprehensive report of your findings and proposed personnel action within 14 days.

I appreciate your immediate attention to this important matter. I know that we are both committed to transparency for the American people, and I look forward to continuing to work with you to serve our President and our country.
Sincerely,
Pamela Bondi
Attorney General

brush

(60,728 posts)
11. All performative bullshit. There will never be full disclosure as trump's name is all over all that material.
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 07:52 PM
Jul 16

Bondi is getting out her redacting tool as we speak.

Tommy Carcetti

(44,042 posts)
10. There isn't an actual *list* per se.
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 07:49 PM
Jul 16

The problem for Trump is:

A. His MAGA base has been so conditioned for years to believe that there is a literal “Epstein List” (comprised entirely of Democrats and liberal celebrities) so when they have to come out and sheepishly admit there is no real list, his followers get all upset

And

B. While there’s no actual “list” there is an investigative file comprised of thousands of pages and it’s possible that somewhere in those pages there might have been some information about Trump that was embarrassing to say the least

usonian

(19,355 posts)
15. It doesn't matter what's in them or not in them.
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 10:05 PM
Jul 16


The fact that they were “promised” and then hot-potato’ed opens up all conspiracy theories, as if we didn’t have enough already, from every viewpoint.

I won’t speculate!!!

Why not?

Because everyone and their bookie, cab driver, barber, manicurist, pet parrot and crazy aunt (or uncle) will have one, or more theories. And as with all information, the less that’s available, or the more withheld, the more people will speculate. Management calls this malicious gossip, while trying to keep people in the dark, and I have encountered this on many jobs.

See also: Streisand effect: (dirty details linked here)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20488931
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