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rurallib

(63,956 posts)
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 10:58 AM Jul 16

D you think the Epstein 'list' still exists?

I got to think that such a list was destroyed long ago. If not before the FIWH's (Felon In The White House) 2nd term, then early in the second term.

Got to think right now the emphasis is on toughing it out until some other egregious act finally supplants any push to do something about Epstein. Or Roberts, Alito and company somehow bails his ass out.

Just a couple of years ago, he was storing top secret files in a bathroom of his dump in Florida. Seemed like a sure ticket to the hoosegow. Instead he wormed out of that and into the White House.

Can't imagine he would not have had such evidence long ago destroyed.

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underpants

(191,705 posts)
2. No. I don't think was ever a specific list.
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 11:07 AM
Jul 16

Why would he write it down separately? Did he have material to blackmail? Yes without a doubt but I doubt he’d have some sort actual list.

One could be compiled I’d think but I doubt he’d had one.

Buckeyeblue

(5,972 posts)
6. There is no way he had a list
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 11:13 AM
Jul 16

A list would be evidence against him. And a list doesn't prove anything, regardless of who is on it.

karynnj

(60,429 posts)
8. Even if a list had been compiled by Maxwell or Epstein, just a list would not be enough
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 11:15 AM
Jul 16

Now, if DOJ created a list based on any "proof" contained in the Epstein stuff, it would be only as good as the threshold of proof needed to put someone on the list. In addition, if the Trump DOJ created that list under Bondi, I assume it would have been "cleaned" of any MAGA ally.

underpants

(191,705 posts)
13. All of that is true. Pamela Joe can't create one now.
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 11:36 AM
Jul 16

The cult might buy it just because it would relieve them of how blatantly and consistently they were lied to and lead around by their noses.

usonian

(19,353 posts)
4. I am sure that new ones are being created, using AI, to incriminate every Democrat, back to Al Smith.
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 11:12 AM
Jul 16

post-truth society, comrade.

Ocelot II

(126,278 posts)
5. I don't think there ever was a client list, as such. AFAIK Epstein didn't operate
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 11:13 AM
Jul 16

as a procurer with a client list, like the madam of a brothel. Instead, he recruited girls, with the help of Maxwell, for his own proclivities and "shared" them with his rich friends at parties and on his island. There is likely to be evidence relating to who participated in Epstein's activities in the form of photos, videos, notes and receipts, some of which are already public. There is likely to be other evidence which has not been seen but could have been produced at Epstein's trial, had there been one. It has been reported that Epstein installed hidden cameras throughout his properties and that he kept CDs locked in a safe labeled with names of girls and their "partners." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein. This is the stuff he could have intended for leverage and blackmail, and is probably more incriminating than mere client lists.

Mister Ed

(6,650 posts)
17. Yes. That's the sort of evidence that's likely to exist.
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 11:48 AM
Jul 16

It's unlikely that Epstein ever created a document titled, "My List Of People That I Might Blackmail". So, when Bondi says that no such list was found, it's probably true in the strictest sense.

Johnny2X2X

(23,105 posts)
10. No
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 11:19 AM
Jul 16

These people don't keep lists and any lists he had was just his contacts and not evidence of wrong doing.

Arazi

(8,206 posts)
11. Oh yes, might not be *THE* list but the GOP will certainly manufacture *A* list
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 11:27 AM
Jul 16

I suspect “the list” was actually Epstein’s black book which was released years ago.

What’s missing is an itemized spreadsheet of the videotapes. I bet that’s what his crew wants - the names of perps committing the crimes. THAT list will most certainly be fabricated with whatever names Trump wants on there

brush

(60,728 posts)
12. It still exists. Some one, maybe several someboddies, have squierred that info away...
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 11:31 AM
Jul 16

on a thumb drive somewhere, figuring, and correctly IMO, that it'll come in handy one day.

GusBob

(7,934 posts)
16. What kind of list? In Bondi's Letter to Patel from Feb
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 11:44 AM
Jul 16

IF I RECALL CORRECTLY
She mentions " contact list" that could be from phone or email contacts, a bunch of innocent folks maybe?
Then she mentions "Client list" that could be from his business clients, maybe some more no-nothings?
Or a list of the child predators?

She does mention she would keep everything in confidence

Between the first 2 there may be some trafficking customers. But I believe there are bunch of wealthy and important folks on both lists that they cant prove jack crap about and dont want to get them out in public

bdamomma

(68,901 posts)
18. I believe
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 11:54 AM
Jul 16

it exists, and this story is not going away. There are a number of people on Epstein's list, be it Republicans and Democrats, Billionaires, and of course Donald Trump (he's a sexual predator and abuser). Women and young girls are the targets, these are sick damaged white men.

Show the list!!!!!

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