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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Epstein case is going to amount to nothing
In a week, it will hardly be mentioned, in a month, poof, it will be gone. Trump will do his usual gish gallop thing, and some other shiny thing of the moment will take its place, then another and another, ad infinitum. As far as this "MAGA civil war" goes, it too will amount to nothing. People will fall back in line because there is too much for them to lose if they don't.
As far as the files making some appearance at a future date under a Democratic administration, not happening, there are too many powerful Democrats in those files as well as Republicans for anybody to make them public. Whether Ghislaine Maxwell has any dirt, maybe, maybe not, but given what happened to Jeffery Epstein, she's going to be mum and hope to get out of prison alive.
The Epsein files are a mutual political suicide pact, and nobody is going to pull the pin on that one. If it hasn't happened already, those files will be destroyed, everything swept under the rug, and fades I to a historical footnote. And Trump will pay no price, he is the second coming of Teflon Ron, Teflon Don.

It's become clear to me that the only way out of this shitstorm is to wade all the way through it. It's not gonna dissipate or collapse on its own cuz you are right, they have too much (pride) to lose.
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emulatorloo
(46,012 posts)they are most likely projecting or lying.
Trump just accused Obama, Sec Clinton and Joe Biden of "writing" the Epstein files. Pretty sure you are too smart to believe ridiculous claims like that.
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JEFFREY EPSTEIN IS ABOUT TRUMPS FAILING ABILITY TO COMMAND ATTENTION
https://www.emptywheel.net/2025/07/13/jeffrey-epstein-is-about-command-of-attention/
His attack on Rosie ODonnell yesterday shows that his ability to direct the attention of the left remains undiminished and makes clear why this power is so important to Trump.
Trumps attack on the comedian, just hours before his latest inept intervention in the Epstein matter, came in the wake of a number of stories the NYT story describing that key National Weather Service positions were vacant when the flood hit, the CNN report on a three day delay that Kristi Noem caused in the search and rescue, reports on Kerr Countys refusal to accept a Dem-funded early warning system that Rayne wrote up here, the NYT story describing how Noem cut off funding to a call center while it was fielding calls from survivors holding Trumps Administration or Republicans accountable for exacerbating the impact of the flood.
When Trump tweeted that Rosie ODonnell is a Threat to Humanity and claimed to be considering stripping her citizenship (she lives in Dublin but as far as I know does not yet have Irish citizenship), that post circulated wildly among journalists and the left, sometimes with commentary about how grave a threat it was that Trump would even make such threats (which he has no legal power to carry out).
More at link...
Brainfodder
(7,531 posts)
Johnny2X2X
(23,083 posts)This will blow over and soon. Hes going to do something to distract this week and people will move on.
They never intended to released anything real. They probably had a fake set of papers ready, but someone told them it would t work.
And I dont think theres much there really. Epstein wasnt running a brothel or anything. He kept underaged girls around not for money or for blackmail even, he was just a creep and knew some other sickos who liked teenaged girls.
Baitball Blogger
(50,497 posts)Start trickling out the evidence. I cant believe that someone during the previous Administration didnt make copies. Leaks will give Trump a melt-down.
Hornedfrog2000
(376 posts)So much shit could have been done. Dems have been asleep for 10 years
emulatorloo
(46,012 posts) Dems have been asleep for 10 years
Yeah, no.
More could have been done in the last 4 years to prevent this nightmare. Totally asleep is a fair assessment
newdeal2
(3,421 posts)Tommy Carcetti
(44,035 posts)Epstein is the fools gold of scandals.
Sneederbunk
(16,311 posts)Quiet Em
(2,094 posts)I think we all know that there are many, rich, influencial men involved.
I hope all of them are forever worried and paranoid that they could be outed at anytime.
BoRaGard
(6,413 posts)pedo stains are permanent
Kid Berwyn
(21,365 posts)Is it any wonder why?
The Ties That Bind Jeffrey Epstein, William Barr & Donald Trump
Todd Neikirk
Hill Reporter, May 19, 2019
During Attorney General, William Barrs confirmation hearing, he was mostly peppered with questions about how he would handle the Mueller Report. Senator Ben Sasses (R-NE) questioning, however, diverged from the pack. Sasse asked Barr about the lenient sentence given out to billionaire pedophile, Jeffrey Epstein. The future Attorney General told Sasse that he would look into the matter.
This, however, was not the first connection between Barr and his family and the disgraced pedophile. In 1973, Barrs father Donald, the headmaster at Manhattans Dalton School, hired Epstein as a calculus and physics teacher.
While hiring Epstein, a noted mathematics genius, was not strange on its face, the hire was unusual for a number of reasons. Epstein had not earned a college degree as he dropped out of New Yorks prestigious Cooper Union. The other odd circumstance was that the new teacher was only 20 years of age.
Apparently, the hire was a successful one. The New Yorker wrote in a 2003 profile on Epstein, he was something of a Robin WilliamsinDead Poets Society type of figure, wowing his high-school classes with passionate mathematical riffs. Epsteins mathematical skills caught the eye of Bear Stearns chairman, Alan Ace Greenberg, whose son attended the Dalton School. Greenberg hired Epstein as an options trader and the former teacher was able to amass a fortune.
Continues....
https://hillreporter.com/the-ties-that-bind-jeffrey-epstein-william-barr-donald-trump-34107
Instead: Raise a stink. Who knows? MAGAtts might figure it out.
Hugin
(36,632 posts)Some of it contains far more details than any governmental entity would ever publish.
Im not sure what is so critical about the FBI version that is causing the backlash.
Supposedly there were cameras everywhere in order to capture everything.
Hugin
(36,632 posts)Learned from the CCCP. Electronic surveillance
Pre-edited for maximum shock value.
Still, I doubt that would be a part of any official release. Sort of like the Apprentice out-takes, we all know they exist(ed) and were very graphic. Yet, for some reason since they have never been shown its easy to shrug them off.
Kingofalldems
(39,731 posts)mzmolly
(52,367 posts)There is no evidence any powerful Democrat is implicated. It's not going away.
Kingofalldems
(39,731 posts)KentuckyWoman
(7,135 posts)My only request is they shield the minors and victims. Everyone else can go down in flames.
617Blue
(1,967 posts)Torchlight
(5,146 posts)My own guess is his that future is quite a bit less rosier than what yours leads to, and that a tipping point does in fact, exist.