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AOC post, only on X so far, not on Bluesky: Wow who would have thought that electing a rapist would have complicated the (Original Post) highplainsdem Jul 11 OP
The cover-up is hardly a surprise. But what makes no sense Bluetus Jul 11 #1
that's a stellar qualification NJCher Jul 11 #8
There is no question Bondi is world class stupid. Of course she was smart enough to grab Donnie's $20,000 campaign flashman13 Jul 11 #9
Was it 20 or 25? Like to keep the story straight for magats mobeau69 Jul 12 #46
You are right. It was 25,000. A bargain at any price. flashman13 Jul 12 #48
She's such a fucking whore. mobeau69 Jul 12 #51
Never underestimate the power "finally bringing the Clintons to justice" has over these nuts JHB Jul 11 #11
In my adulthood, I only remember slightlv Jul 11 #16
I would qualify that soldierant Jul 11 #21
Oh, yes... slightlv Jul 11 #23
I cpuld not agree more. soldierant Jul 11 #24
They're Theo-Bolsheviks, and should be treated as seditionists JHB Jul 12 #27
I Would Qualify That By Saying That I And My Honey Take Each Other To Church Regularly MayReasonRule Jul 12 #47
bragging. Drunk with power. Evolve Dammit Jul 11 #12
this whole thing is really weird with mixed information ClaudetteCC Jul 11 #13
How about to put all the DENVERPOPS Jul 11 #26
She'd be fired if she even thought about bringing Mar a Lago Mussolini to heal alfredo Jul 12 #28
Repugnants are not the sharpest knives in the drawer. nt CousinIT Jul 11 #2
She needs to get off of X edhopper Jul 11 #3
She has only 2.1 million followers for her personal account on Bluesky, versus 12.7 million on X. highplainsdem Jul 11 #4
If X were killed off edhopper Jul 11 #5
Many of us here aren't progressives Polybius Jul 11 #17
Is Musk considered a moderate? AZProgressive Jul 12 #36
Of course he's not moderate Polybius Jul 12 #42
agreed purple_haze Jul 12 #44
Strong assertions Torchlight Yesterday #53
I agree, supporting Musk should be a no for anyone that supports democracy EastBayGuy Jul 11 #18
sorry not sorry purple_haze Jul 12 #43
Staying on Twitter (will never call it X) is the equivalent of campaigning in red counties Tarc Jul 11 #19
Especially when her followers on Xhitter Captain Zero Jul 11 #22
Similar to Bernie appearing on Fox News, Joe Rogan, Andrew Schulz, etc. thought crime Jul 12 #29
I totally support campaigning and speaking everywhere, even Xhitter. Maru Kitteh Jul 12 #31
Agree -One million Americans are on Twitter womanofthehills Jul 12 #33
She needs to represent the people SocialDemocrat61 Jul 12 #34
It's not a purity test edhopper Jul 12 #37
It's a purity test SocialDemocrat61 Jul 12 #39
G.O.P. pedo perps need to be called out BoRaGard Jul 11 #6
I LOVE LOVE LOVE HER!!! wolfie001 Jul 11 #7
Kick dalton99a Jul 11 #10
I had it on my B-I-N-G-O card. n/t aggiesal Jul 11 #14
This woman will have a long LilElf70 Jul 11 #15
She is absolutely fearless. llmart Jul 11 #20
Pelosi's not an admirer of AOC. She actively worked to tank AOC's bid for Ranking Member on the Oversight Committee Celerity Jul 11 #25
Well, I happen to agree with her that she needs to have more experience. llmart Jul 12 #49
Explain the one term (plus several months) ex Republican Robert Garcia's lack of experience (3 times less than AOC) Celerity Jul 12 #50
Well said SocialDemocrat61 Jul 13 #52
The more time passes, the more I love AOC. Maru Kitteh Jul 12 #30
this was one of the replies to conway's post orleans Jul 12 #32
Ha! That's brilliant and very true nt róisín_dubh Jul 12 #35
Still on the greatest discussion list LilElf70 Jul 12 #38
I thought of reactivating my X account lest I'm missing so much... Montauk6 Jul 12 #40
After causing the Biden administration of a cover up in the Epstein case, Trump is now calling it yesterday's news and Martin68 Jul 12 #41
People who have high follower numbers and post on politics and news somsai Jul 12 #45

Bluetus

(1,311 posts)
1. The cover-up is hardly a surprise. But what makes no sense
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 05:08 PM
Jul 11

Last edited Fri Jul 11, 2025, 07:27 PM - Edit history (1)

is how Bondi could have been so stupid as to admit she had the client lists in her possession.

Why would she do this?

Is it because she truly is that stupid? I guess that's possible, but that would be world-class stupid.

Is it because she actually believed Trump when he said he wanted to release that stuff? That's a bit more plausible, but still really stupid. For that to be the answer, she would have to believe that Trump isn't a rapist, and all those pictures with him hanging with Epstein and very young girls were just taken out of context. For the MAGA cult, I guess that is very possible.

But why is Bannon so hot to get this released? He is nobody's fool. Is it because he thinks the Nazis are firmly implanted now and he'd be happy to see Trump forced out of the picture?

Or do these people really believe this will be harmful to Dems? I'm not even aware of any rumors of prominent Dems being regular Epstein clients. Maybe Bill Clinton, but he's been off the map for 25 years.

NJCher

(40,729 posts)
8. that's a stellar qualification
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 06:24 PM
Jul 11
world-class stupid.

I mean, after all, this is the trump administration. You need to be world-class stupid.

Ordinary stupid need not apply.

flashman13

(1,405 posts)
9. There is no question Bondi is world class stupid. Of course she was smart enough to grab Donnie's $20,000 campaign
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 06:27 PM
Jul 11

bribe. I mean donation.

JHB

(37,791 posts)
11. Never underestimate the power "finally bringing the Clintons to justice" has over these nuts
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 07:23 PM
Jul 11

The idea of hitting the jackpot, of slaying the Great Monster Of Our Times (and being the one to do it) leads them down the stupidest paths.

slightlv

(6,137 posts)
16. In my adulthood, I only remember
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 09:10 PM
Jul 11

two presidents who were screeched about by repugs while the Dem was in office... and for years afterwards. The first was Jimmy Carter, and the other was Bill Clinton. Funny that these were two of the "most" religious presidents we had. I hesitate to say that about Clinton, given his "sinning" (!) but he did attend church regularly and spoke of religion often enough it irked me because of that whole state/church thing.

I don't think you could hit a single republican with a frisbee and land on one who goes to church regularly, let alone stand by the 10 Commandments or the Beatitudes.

soldierant

(8,740 posts)
21. I would qualify that
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 10:16 PM
Jul 11

by saying a church which teaches what Jesus taught.

They have their own churches which preach Christian Nationalism, the Seven Mountains Mandate, and the Prosperity Gospel, and I expect they crowd into those.

slightlv

(6,137 posts)
23. Oh, yes...
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 10:32 PM
Jul 11

with Paula (whatshername) as chief prophetess. What you're thinking of is Dominionism, or NAR (National Apostolic Reformation) as they rebranded themselves. This group, IMO, needs to labeled a terrorist group. They may not have bombed anything yet, but the inroads they've made into education, infrastructure, and government is damned scary. I daresay they have completely captured the government, in all its many forms. And with all these judges acquiescing to RW demands for 10 Commandments and other bible literature plastered all over the school room walls... well, they are well on their way to capturing all those 7 mountains, woe be unto us! When they capture the Entertainment mountain, that's when life is no longer worth living, cause there'll be no escapism allowed for any amount of time. It'll be all "Rapture" and "Late Great Planet Earth" all the time. As backwards xtian they are up here in KS, my joke is they get mad at anyone they see smiling... obviously that person has to be sinning! (sigh)

And it's too bad that today, you have to ask which Jesus people follow -- the biblical Jesus or the Warrior Jesus of the NAR and repugs.
My grandmother, a travelling preacher back in her day, and a *very* religious person is turning over in her grave!!

soldierant

(8,740 posts)
24. I cpuld not agree more.
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 10:50 PM
Jul 11

There's also the "Blue Army and the Opus Dei among reactionary Catholics. All terrorists.

The reaction of many in the church, clerics and lay, was the same reaction the GOP had to the Obama Presidency. I remember it vividly. I was terrifies when Francis died that it would happen again. Thank God they picked someone sane (not perfect, but sane.)

JHB

(37,791 posts)
27. They're Theo-Bolsheviks, and should be treated as seditionists
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 12:01 AM
Jul 12

Seven Mountains is a radical ideology where the goal is seizing total power and ruling as tyrants, with a few pious decorations dotted here and there to pretend it is about religion.

MayReasonRule

(3,560 posts)
47. I Would Qualify That By Saying That I And My Honey Take Each Other To Church Regularly
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 01:19 PM
Jul 12




Tasty and plenty.

Amen

ClaudetteCC

(80 posts)
13. this whole thing is really weird with mixed information
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 07:29 PM
Jul 11

I hope the onion will get peeled eventually.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
26. How about to put all the
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 11:49 PM
Jul 11

Politcians, Uber Wealthy, and Male members of the Trump CABAL on notice that he has the goods on all of them and that they need to start kissing the ring more often to avoid prosecution for sex crimes against children.......

highplainsdem

(57,412 posts)
4. She has only 2.1 million followers for her personal account on Bluesky, versus 12.7 million on X.
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 05:29 PM
Jul 11

edhopper

(36,355 posts)
5. If X were killed off
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 05:31 PM
Jul 11

by people leaving it, followers would move to blusky.

Supporting Musk should be a deal breaker for progressive.

Polybius

(20,543 posts)
17. Many of us here aren't progressives
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 09:21 PM
Jul 11

Plenty of moderates here who vote reliably Blue. Some even drive Tesla's.

AZProgressive

(29,699 posts)
36. Is Musk considered a moderate?
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 07:16 AM
Jul 12

He did a Nazi salute at the inauguration but something like that is normalized during these dark times but it would have been a deal breaker including for "moderates" a couple decades ago to support a business of that kind of person. Even without his beliefs the hostile takeover of federal government agencies should be a deal breaker and that includes for moderates.

I think a moderate would look at the progressives & the Republicans and conclude that progressives have better policies but centrists ideas are usually Republican ideas. The theory is it helps them win but evidence suggests otherwise.

 

purple_haze

(401 posts)
44. agreed
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 12:04 PM
Jul 12

excellent post. my party completely lacks unity these days and it's an unmitigated disaster that is getting us nowhere.

 

purple_haze

(401 posts)
43. sorry not sorry
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 12:03 PM
Jul 12

i own tesla stock and it has made me a boatload over the years. Am I supporting elon? what if i use my profits to buy something other than a tesla car? am i then un-supporting elon?

The user base on X is many orders of magnitude larger than what it is on blue sky. For people who want to get the message out it's the obvious option.

Tarc

(10,594 posts)
19. Staying on Twitter (will never call it X) is the equivalent of campaigning in red counties
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 09:42 PM
Jul 11

Feelings for Musk and Teslas are irrelevant, it is still a social media platform used by many, and using it still reaches a lot of people.

Captain Zero

(8,145 posts)
22. Especially when her followers on Xhitter
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 10:26 PM
Jul 11

Retweet her out to their followers, some who will be Maga or Maga adjacent.

Maru Kitteh

(30,388 posts)
31. I totally support campaigning and speaking everywhere, even Xhitter.
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 01:52 AM
Jul 12

I don’t watch FoxNuz, and I don’t use Xhitter, but we need to speak to everyone. Absolutely.

womanofthehills

(10,014 posts)
33. Agree -One million Americans are on Twitter
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 02:21 AM
Jul 12

Right now 46% are Dems and 45% Republicans. Most are younger people. I think it’s a real bad idea for Dems to leave X because the young will be only influenced by Republicans. Do some of you guys really want only Republicans influencing millions of our young people??

Interesting, it’s now being reported over on X by various prominent Republicans that Bongino will quit if Pam Bondi is not fired as she has made a fool of him. Also reported that if Bongino quits, Kash Patel might quit. Not saying this is true but Republican reporters are reporting this. Bongino as a podcaster made a huge deal about releasing Epstein files and so his podcast followers are very upset with him. Bongino is also very pro Palestine so I wonder why Trump picked him. He could have been picked by Trump because of Bongino’s following or Trump picked him to force him to shut up about Epstein & Israel.

SocialDemocrat61

(5,199 posts)
34. She needs to represent the people
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 03:20 AM
Jul 12

and fight Trump with every tool available. This is no time for silly purity tests.

SocialDemocrat61

(5,199 posts)
39. It's a purity test
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 08:57 AM
Jul 12

And let her use the Nazi and his company if it helps get her message out. Stop slamming a great democrat who speaks for the people just because she doesn't meet your personal requirement of perfection. That is the thinking that got us Bush and not Trump.

LilElf70

(983 posts)
15. This woman will have a long
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 08:23 PM
Jul 11

successful life in politics. She definitely knows how to talk the talk and walk the walk.

llmart

(16,640 posts)
20. She is absolutely fearless.
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 10:16 PM
Jul 11

Reminds me of Nancy Pelosi. I think she'll be the next Nancy Pelosi.

Celerity

(50,954 posts)
25. Pelosi's not an admirer of AOC. She actively worked to tank AOC's bid for Ranking Member on the Oversight Committee
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 11:33 PM
Jul 11

in favour of a terminal esophageal cancer-ridden septuagenarian (Gerry Connolly), who then died several months later.




One of the main arguments made against AOC was that she lacked enough time/experience in the House (problematic claim as she already had served as Vice Ranking Member on Oversight). She was elected in 2018, sworn in on January 3rd, 2019 and is now in her 4th term.

BUT the new Ranking Member on the Oversight Committee is Robert Garcia, who has only been in the House since January 3, 2023, so AOC has around 3 times the length of House tenure than Garcia did. He also is an ex Republican (up until he was around 30yo, he is 47yo now).

llmart

(16,640 posts)
49. Well, I happen to agree with her that she needs to have more experience.
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 05:49 PM
Jul 12

I still believe in working your way up through the ranks. AOC is still young. She'll get there.

Celerity

(50,954 posts)
50. Explain the one term (plus several months) ex Republican Robert Garcia's lack of experience (3 times less than AOC)
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 07:47 PM
Jul 12

being just fine (he is now the Oversight Committee Ranking member after Connolly died close to two months ago), but AOC is not, despite triple the length of time in re House tenure as Garcia AND despite the fact AOC already was Vice Ranking Member on that very same Oversight Committee in the previous Congress.

You also had multiple posters here who took the 'AOC needs to wait her turn, she lacks experience' stance but then turned around and supported Jasmine Crockett (who, like Garcia, was a one-termer plus a few months) as the Ranking Member on Oversight (Crockett withdrew after finishing dead last in the preliminary House Democratic Steering and Policy Committee vote).

The fifth highest Democrat in the entire Democratic House Caucus, Joe Neguse, had LESS House tenure than AOC did (in January 2025, when AOC ran for Ranking Member on Oversight) when Neguse assumed that high overall Leadership role (Assistant Democratic Leader) in early 2024 (they both were elected in 2018).

The fourth highest Democrat in the entire Democratic House Caucus (and my House rep) Ted Lieu, only had one term more experience than AOC did when Lieu assumed that high overall Leadership role (Vice Chair of the House Democratic Caucus).

The third highest Democrat in the entire Democratic House Caucus, Pete Aguilar, only had one term more experience than AOC did when Aguilar assumed that high overall Leadership role (Chair of the House Democratic Caucus).

The 2nd highest Democrat (only underneath Leader Jeffries) in the entire Democratic House Caucus, Katherine Clark, only had one term and a half terms more experience than AOC did when Clark assumed that high overall Leadership role (Democratic Whip).

Clark had LESS House tenure than AOC did (in January 2025) when Clark assumed the high Leadership role of Vice Chair of the House Democratic Caucus in January 2019.

The highest Democrat in the entire Democratic House Caucus, Leader Jeffries, only had two terms more experience than AOC did in January 2025 (when AOC ran for Ranking Member on Oversight) when Jeffries assumed the Democratic House Leader role in January 2023.


It all adds up to situationally and selectively applied double standards in re AOC.

Montauk6

(9,168 posts)
40. I thought of reactivating my X account lest I'm missing so much...
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 10:40 AM
Jul 12

But then I remembered the stench of sun-baked outhouse manure and vomit...

Martin68

(26,182 posts)
41. After causing the Biden administration of a cover up in the Epstein case, Trump is now calling it yesterday's news and
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 11:20 AM
Jul 12

unworthy of attention. Perhaps the chickens will come home to roost and this will blow up in the administration's face. After fanning the conspiracy theory flames for political gain, it would serve them right.

somsai

(121 posts)
45. People who have high follower numbers and post on politics and news
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 12:32 PM
Jul 12

post on Twitter. Many also post on Blue Sky, but much less often. Like every couple weeks they'll post to Blue Sky and twice a day to Twitter. I follow AOC.

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