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Steve Schmidt: Jake Tapper and "Morning Joe" Have Turned Journalism Into Propaganda (Original Post) tulipsandroses Yesterday OP
I think that has been a problem for near half a century Uncle Joe Yesterday #1
All I needed to know Morning Joe is officially a RWNJ outlet was in the 15 seconds I saw today... Moostache Yesterday #2
MEka lost all credibility with me years ago SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #3
I agree that her reservoir of good will was dry as the Sahara long ago... Moostache Yesterday #4
She obilterated any work she has done for years tyring to promote women's rights milestogo 17 hrs ago #28
I'm not defending Tapper or Scarborough, but Steve Schmidt has shown abysmal judgment when it comes to character. AStern Yesterday #5
He also gave us Alito Sympthsical Yesterday #7
I've noticed a big drop off in the amount of Morning Joe fanboying on DU the last few months. nt ImNotGod Yesterday #6
Has Steve watched Fox lately? mzmolly Yesterday #8
He criticized FAUX in the video SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #12
Good to know. The title of the video mzmolly Yesterday #14
I try to actually watch or read something posted SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #15
Oh. I'm criticizing the title, mzmolly Yesterday #16
Yet didn't bother to watch the video SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #17
... because of the title. mzmolly Yesterday #18
And still unfairly criticized Schmidt SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #19
lol mzmolly Yesterday #20
Irrelevant SocialDemocrat61 22 hrs ago #21
Again, I criticized the title of the video, mzmolly 21 hrs ago #22
No you criticized Schmidt SocialDemocrat61 21 hrs ago #23
Schmidt's mzmolly 21 hrs ago #24
No SocialDemocrat61 21 hrs ago #25
. mzmolly 21 hrs ago #26
😂😂😂 SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #27
I won't change the title. You don't have to watch the video, but I think you are missing the context tulipsandroses 17 hrs ago #29
Well said SocialDemocrat61 11 hrs ago #32
He talks about Fox in the opening. Calls it a cancer on society tulipsandroses Yesterday #13
I've been watching BBC in the mornings and find it very informative. I like the change. SheilaAnn Yesterday #9
Tapper is spending all of his time pimping this book instead of covering trump LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #10
*looks back 20+ years ago* Remember when Bush was pushing to invade Iraq? sakabatou Yesterday #11
He's not wrong. Patton French 16 hrs ago #30
And still, Democrats watch them. Both should have been cancelled by us long ago. Scrivener7 12 hrs ago #31

Uncle Joe

(61,780 posts)
1. I think that has been a problem for near half a century
Tue May 27, 2025, 11:31 AM
Yesterday

Last edited Tue May 27, 2025, 12:02 PM - Edit history (1)

They just had a much greater margin of noticeable error between actual journalism and propaganda before the Internet grew strong enough to form a counter balance to their corporate spew.

Personally I started picking up on it during the 2000 election, they became as parrots repeating each other's bs without any context.

From morning shows to late night comedy and most all news in between they worked to morph consideration for the most powerful job in the land as if it should be someone that you would be comfortable partying with.

"Who would you rather have a beer with" and "Al Gore claimed to have invented the Internet" etc. etc. etc.

I believe they did this primarily because Al Gore actually was the chief legislative champion for opening the Internet to the people, and the corporate media recognized a growing competitive threat to their corporate centric domination of information and preferred a more malleable party boy as President.

Thanks for the thread tulipsandroses



Moostache

(10,532 posts)
2. All I needed to know Morning Joe is officially a RWNJ outlet was in the 15 seconds I saw today...
Tue May 27, 2025, 11:33 AM
Yesterday

Mika was justifying the "red pill" movement's main idea - that men (specifically WHITE men) are truly the victims of societal repression and feminist tropes that emasculate them for just 'being men'.

I won't bother boring anyone with what "red pill" is (if you know, you know), but suffice it to say, they sent her out to read this copy and in 15 seconds she obilterated any work she has done for years tyring to (maybe in name or show only) promote women's rights.

Let me be clear - men are NOT under attack anymore than fucking Christmas was ever under attack. Its the same goddamn playbook on fucking endless loops - always the victims, always so oppressed, always screaming for the need to prosecute others and give them a free pass. I'm just sickened by the whole thing.

I wish this country would just hurry up and partition so I can decide where to settle and just how far away I need to go to be freed from this imbeciles, bigots and fools.

Moostache

(10,532 posts)
4. I agree that her reservoir of good will was dry as the Sahara long ago...
Tue May 27, 2025, 11:42 AM
Yesterday

Today was just particularly ugly because of the context and subcontext of the piece that gives tacit approval to the online dude-bros and manoverse of little boys with tiny pricks who feel it is OK to blame women for all of their own short comings (poun 100% intended).

milestogo

(20,639 posts)
28. She obilterated any work she has done for years tyring to promote women's rights
Wed May 28, 2025, 03:11 AM
17 hrs ago

when she married a right wing nutjob.

AStern

(289 posts)
5. I'm not defending Tapper or Scarborough, but Steve Schmidt has shown abysmal judgment when it comes to character.
Tue May 27, 2025, 11:51 AM
Yesterday

Choosing Sarah Palin as McCain's running mate and supporting Howard Schultz are two glaring examples. It's truly baffling that anyone on this site still takes his word seriously.

The same goes for David Frum, the Lincoln Project, Ron Filipkowski, and a host of other Republicans and conservatives who simply don't like Trump.

Sympthsical

(10,614 posts)
7. He also gave us Alito
Tue May 27, 2025, 11:58 AM
Yesterday

Which is by far a much greater offense than Palin. Alito shows where his core ideological convictions lay. He only switched over when Trump displaced him, and he realized he could make millions with cheap YouTube videos aimed at our side (with the leftover tens of millions distributed among friends and family). Yeah, he pretends he dislikes all of his core convictions now, but I don't even slightly believe him. He's done far, far, far too much damage.

If he were earnest, he wouldn't be using his perch to pocket millions in donations.

It's just a performance for the grift. We can listen to just about anyone else for free.

ImNotGod

(691 posts)
6. I've noticed a big drop off in the amount of Morning Joe fanboying on DU the last few months. nt
Tue May 27, 2025, 11:52 AM
Yesterday

mzmolly

(52,168 posts)
14. Good to know. The title of the video
Tue May 27, 2025, 05:20 PM
Yesterday

did not encourage me to tune in given he didn't mention the primary media offender.

SocialDemocrat61

(4,610 posts)
21. Irrelevant
Tue May 27, 2025, 10:24 PM
22 hrs ago

to what he said in the video that you didn’t watch but still jumped to criticize.

mzmolly

(52,168 posts)
22. Again, I criticized the title of the video,
Tue May 27, 2025, 10:43 PM
21 hrs ago

which (according to you) could have better stated Steve Schmidt's position on Fox and their 'contributions' to the current media climate. Not to mention, the notion that Tapper and Scarborough 'turned' journalism into propaganda, is absurd.

Further, the article is perfectly relevant as Schmidt is criticizing Tapper for promoting the same kind of bullshit he did, when he was paid to advance the "Biden's too old" bullshit on behalf of his candidate.

I have no plans to watch the video unless the title is changed to one that is more accurate, thanks.

SocialDemocrat61

(4,610 posts)
23. No you criticized Schmidt
Tue May 27, 2025, 10:46 PM
21 hrs ago

without bothering to watch the video. Anything else is irrelevant spin.

mzmolly

(52,168 posts)
24. Schmidt's
Tue May 27, 2025, 10:50 PM
21 hrs ago

poorly worded title, yes. However, I have no problem criticizing him when its warranted. I have also appreciated a great deal of his work and many of his deeds over the past few years. Credit where credit is due.

tulipsandroses

(7,258 posts)
29. I won't change the title. You don't have to watch the video, but I think you are missing the context
Wed May 28, 2025, 03:12 AM
17 hrs ago

Tapper is currently engaging in propaganda to sell his book, as well as appearing in RW spaces to do so. Telling them they were right all along.
To be fair, saying you think Biden was too old to serve a second term is not the same as saying he is in mental decline and sundowning and there was a conspiracy to cover it up. A conspiracy, worse than Watergate. A conspiracy that Joe Biden participated in to deceive the public.
He accuses Biden's family of being part of the cover up, smearing Jill Biden, whom he claims was enamored with the lifestyle of being First Lady so she lied to JB about his chances and was part of the cover up. He also claims Hunter was part of the cover- up to save himself from going to jail.

The worst part of all this, is Tapper admits that there is no evidence that Biden failed to do his job as president in any way. The sources giving him information, also said the same. They attested to him making sound decisions. That little tidbit is in the book.
Yet, he is not promoting that part in all his interviews with RW hosts. Just feeding them more propaganda.
What Tapper is doing is on another level.

tulipsandroses

(7,258 posts)
13. He talks about Fox in the opening. Calls it a cancer on society
Tue May 27, 2025, 03:14 PM
Yesterday

He is mainly addressing Tapper , but he started out talking about " conservative media".

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