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malaise

(283,370 posts)
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 02:48 PM Yesterday

11 people killed, more than 20 hurt after SUV rams into Vancouver street festival

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/vehicle-hits-crowd-filipino-festival-lapu-lapu-day-block-party-1.7519778

Eleven people have been killed and multiple others injured after the driver of a black SUV slammed into a crowd Saturday evening at a street festival in Vancouver celebrating the contributions of the Filipino Canadian community, police say.

It happened shortly after 8 p.m. PT, as the Lapu Lapu Day Block Party was winding down, after drawing up to 100,000 people through the day.

The vehicle that struck festival-goers approached the festival area from the west on East 43rd Avenue. It entered a small crowd, an enclosed area, and drove through the crowd. There were hundreds of festival-goers still on the street and multiple people were struck by the vehicle," Steve Rai, interim Vancouver police chief, told reporters on Sunday.


The person we have in custody does have a significant history of interactions with police and health-care professionals related to mental health," he told a briefing on Sunday.


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11 people killed, more than 20 hurt after SUV rams into Vancouver street festival (Original Post) malaise Yesterday OP
Troubled young man? SheltieLover Yesterday #1
Rules do not apply malaise Yesterday #2
Right! SheltieLover Yesterday #3
Not too many MAGAts in Canada. Elessar Zappa 23 hrs ago #5
There are PLENTY enough for any given person to turn out to be one of them AZJonnie 23 hrs ago #7
more than there should be, barbtries 21 hrs ago #17
Oh, Canada has them for sure! SheltieLover 21 hrs ago #21
Almost certainly so, otherwise they'd be 'terrorists' or 'militants' or 'gang members' AZJonnie 23 hrs ago #6
No. Canada is not the USA. We do things differently here. Prejudging is bigotry and you're already proven wrong Bernardo de La Paz 23 hrs ago #8
As far as I know, neither of us know his politics AZJonnie 23 hrs ago #11
Mental illness trumps politics and don't give us any shit about maga being mentally ill. Bernardo de La Paz 23 hrs ago #12
You're one of my favorite posters here so I'm not going to argue further. AZJonnie 21 hrs ago #18
Thank you, it is kind of you to say so. I have no animus, I just call 'em as I see 'em. Be of good cheer. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz 21 hrs ago #19
"What is the proof this guy is not a xenophobic wingnut?" MichMan 19 hrs ago #33
I expressed I agreement with Sheltie that its *likely*, under this set of circumstances, that it's a white dude. AZJonnie 19 hrs ago #34
I claimed to know what is in the OP and that other speculation as to "almost certainly" was factless. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz 18 hrs ago #35
Had you said 'you have no hard evidence' I would have immediately agreed with you, Bernardo AZJonnie 18 hrs ago #36
Perhaps I could have worded that better. I meant that the mental illness factor overrode any possible political factor. Bernardo de La Paz 17 hrs ago #37
All good. And I should've mentioned I was thinking along the lines of if someone committed a violent crime AZJonnie 13 hrs ago #39
Right! SheltieLover 21 hrs ago #22
The *speculation* we've seen based on eyewitness accounts is not a white man. I guess we'll see. LauraInLA 21 hrs ago #16
OK. I've not seen anything about the perp SheltieLover 21 hrs ago #24
Some local stuff, which I didn't really want to share as I'd guess it's premature. I did find it interesting LauraInLA 21 hrs ago #26
Interesting. Maybe they're busy looking for a non-English speaking immigrant to pin it on. SheltieLover 21 hrs ago #27
No. Canada is not the USA. We do things differently. Not perfectly but better. Bernardo de La Paz 21 hrs ago #31
But that didn't stop you from posting prejudgemental falsity. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz 21 hrs ago #29
I must keep telling myself. The person was mentally sick...was mentally sick...mentally sick,, chouchou Yesterday #4
Right. Magats are mentally sick as well, part of a cult. SheltieLover 21 hrs ago #25
No. Cult members, yes. "Mentally" is a cop-out attempt at explanation for maga. Emotionally satifying but factless. . nt Bernardo de La Paz 21 hrs ago #28
They should have had those streets blocked..theyve used dump trucks in the past Demovictory9 23 hrs ago #9
Streets were blocked but someone started letting cars in. I think it might have been non-officials letting cars in Bernardo de La Paz 23 hrs ago #10
Oh... Demovictory9 22 hrs ago #15
Uh, the United States had a car attack a few months ago Prairie Gates 22 hrs ago #13
Countries have started blockading street festivals..Canada had too Demovictory9 22 hrs ago #14
Post removed Post removed 21 hrs ago #20
11 people died and you are making a joke, LG?! sheshe2 21 hrs ago #23
Not funny malaise 21 hrs ago #30
Horrible mcar 20 hrs ago #32
Suspect has been identified as Kai-Ji Adam Lo, 30 MichMan 16 hrs ago #38

AZJonnie

(760 posts)
7. There are PLENTY enough for any given person to turn out to be one of them
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 04:15 PM
23 hrs ago

Maybe they don't affiliate specifically with MAGA, but they're still the exact same type of folks.

barbtries

(30,354 posts)
17. more than there should be,
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 05:52 PM
21 hrs ago

in any democratic country.
They're about to have an election and for Canada, we want the RED side to win.

SheltieLover

(66,967 posts)
21. Oh, Canada has them for sure!
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 06:24 PM
21 hrs ago

Some of our Canadian members have posted about their version of magats.

Also, unless police have released informaiton on the perp, who says the perp was from Canada?

AZJonnie

(760 posts)
6. Almost certainly so, otherwise they'd be 'terrorists' or 'militants' or 'gang members'
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 04:13 PM
23 hrs ago

Nomenclature we've seen play out, ad nauseum.

Bernardo de La Paz

(54,988 posts)
8. No. Canada is not the USA. We do things differently here. Prejudging is bigotry and you're already proven wrong
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 04:17 PM
23 hrs ago

Known to police and health care pros for mental illness.

Canada is not perfect, just better.

AZJonnie

(760 posts)
11. As far as I know, neither of us know his politics
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 04:29 PM
23 hrs ago

Notice though that I did not make any sort of positive claim in that regard, but you ARE making one. What is the proof this guy is not a xenophobic wingnut? And let me also say that in no way, shape or form, are the statuses of 'extreme wingnuts' and 'Known to police and health care pros for mental illness' mutually exclusive, so AFAIK, I'm not 'proven wrong' by that observation. If you have more to share about what you know about this guy that would exclude this man from the 'wingnut' category, please feel free to share. I'm not there in CA, and I assume you are, and are probably getting more details than I am

Bernardo de La Paz

(54,988 posts)
12. Mental illness trumps politics and don't give us any shit about maga being mentally ill.
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 04:34 PM
23 hrs ago

Yes, you did make a positive claim, bassackwards backing into it to try to maintain "plausible deniability".

A poster wrote:
Code for white magat!

You wrote:
Almost certainly so


We like to jab at maga calling them mentally ill but that is not a realistic or useful explanation of anything maga.

Bernardo de La Paz

(54,988 posts)
19. Thank you, it is kind of you to say so. I have no animus, I just call 'em as I see 'em. Be of good cheer. . . nt
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 05:56 PM
21 hrs ago

MichMan

(14,976 posts)
33. "What is the proof this guy is not a xenophobic wingnut?"
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 07:45 PM
19 hrs ago

And there is zero proof from you or otherwise that he is. Until there is more known, it is all mindless speculation.

AZJonnie

(760 posts)
34. I expressed I agreement with Sheltie that its *likely*, under this set of circumstances, that it's a white dude.
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 07:54 PM
19 hrs ago

Bernardo OTOH expressed that I am OUTRIGHT 'proven wrong'. His words. So I was inquiring as to what HIS proof was for claiming I'm 'proven wrong'. The observation that this happened at a specific, foreign-culture based event (as opposed to, say, Mardi Gras), along with the 'troubled individual' storyline, made me suspicious. I don't think unreasonably so, but nonetheless, I did not CLAIM that 'I knew', whereas Bernardo did claim to know. Hence my question. There are really just a couple of basic logical syllogisms in play here, that I would hope I would not have to explain, but it seems so

Bernardo de La Paz

(54,988 posts)
35. I claimed to know what is in the OP and that other speculation as to "almost certainly" was factless. . . . nt
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 08:42 PM
18 hrs ago

AZJonnie

(760 posts)
36. Had you said 'you have no hard evidence' I would have immediately agreed with you, Bernardo
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 09:28 PM
18 hrs ago

But 'proven wrong' means something different

Bernardo de La Paz

(54,988 posts)
37. Perhaps I could have worded that better. I meant that the mental illness factor overrode any possible political factor.
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 10:20 PM
17 hrs ago

Okay, I see better now how the conversation went.

AZJonnie

(760 posts)
39. All good. And I should've mentioned I was thinking along the lines of if someone committed a violent crime
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 02:09 AM
13 hrs ago

and then when the authorities asked why and the criminal told them 'man I hate all spics and beaners, I wanna to rid the world of them all!' they'd probably send 'em to the mental health folks for an assessment. I mean, I hope they would, really. So this is what I meant by both things could be true.

LauraInLA

(1,813 posts)
16. The *speculation* we've seen based on eyewitness accounts is not a white man. I guess we'll see.
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 05:48 PM
21 hrs ago

LauraInLA

(1,813 posts)
26. Some local stuff, which I didn't really want to share as I'd guess it's premature. I did find it interesting
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 06:29 PM
21 hrs ago

that the description used by eyewitnesses was not a white guy, though.

SheltieLover

(66,967 posts)
27. Interesting. Maybe they're busy looking for a non-English speaking immigrant to pin it on.
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 06:32 PM
21 hrs ago

Bernardo de La Paz

(54,988 posts)
31. No. Canada is not the USA. We do things differently. Not perfectly but better.
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 06:36 PM
21 hrs ago

The guy is in custody. Read the thread.

You make a big mistake if you think Canadians behave like maga or make automatic assumptions generally. Of course a few do, but not most.

chouchou

(1,799 posts)
4. I must keep telling myself. The person was mentally sick...was mentally sick...mentally sick,,
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 03:33 PM
Yesterday

Another small side of me is thinking like a partial monster ...

Bernardo de La Paz

(54,988 posts)
28. No. Cult members, yes. "Mentally" is a cop-out attempt at explanation for maga. Emotionally satifying but factless. . nt
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 06:32 PM
21 hrs ago

Demovictory9

(35,470 posts)
9. They should have had those streets blocked..theyve used dump trucks in the past
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 04:17 PM
23 hrs ago

Europe had a car attack a few months ago..didn't have the bollards deployed

All street festivals..black them

Bernardo de La Paz

(54,988 posts)
10. Streets were blocked but someone started letting cars in. I think it might have been non-officials letting cars in
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 04:26 PM
23 hrs ago

The event was over. The last musical act had left the stage. Vendors were packing up. But there were still crowds.

Prairie Gates

(4,931 posts)
13. Uh, the United States had a car attack a few months ago
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 04:51 PM
22 hrs ago

Fourteen people were killed in New Orleans on New Year's Eve, not counting the perp.

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