General Discussion

blue-wave

(4,626 posts) Wed Apr 23, 2025, 09:30 PM 7 hrs ago

'Why are we talking about Crimea?' Fmr. U.S. Amb. to Russia slams Trump admin's strategy

I have another question. When are we going to ask Russia to give up all or part of its' territory?

And a few more.

How about Russia stop bombing Ukrainian civilians?

How about Russia returning all 20,000 kidnapped Ukrainian children?

How about Russian stopping all war crimes against Ukrainians, military and civilian.

How about Russia releasing all kidnapped Ukrainian and Crimean Tatar political prisoners?

Need I go on? Because I can. But then it would be days before I post this.

6 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

'Why are we talking about Crimea?' Fmr. U.S. Amb. to Russia slams Trump admin's strategy (Original Post) blue-wave 7 hrs ago OP

There is no "strategy" MorbidButterflyTat 6 hrs ago #1

From the translation .... cliffside 6 hrs ago #2

Weird, right? Almost like the fucking president is a Russian agent or something. Karasu 6 hrs ago #3

trmp is negotiating on behalf of the Russians. spanone 6 hrs ago #4

Russia's right flank is vulnerable right now JoseBalow 5 hrs ago #5

Negotiating, my arse! ReRe 4 hrs ago #6

MorbidButterflyTat

(2,838 posts)

1. There is no "strategy"

Reply to blue-wave (Original post)

Wed Apr 23, 2025, 10:40 PM

6 hrs ago

How could anyone in the universe with half a brain cell not figured that out by now?

cliffside

(878 posts)

2. From the translation ....

Reply to blue-wave (Original post)

Wed Apr 23, 2025, 10:52 PM

6 hrs ago

"3:09
SO, AMBASSADOR, HOW DOES IT
3:10
CHANGE THE NEGOTIATIONS FOR THE
3:12
U.S. NOT TO HAVE ITS TOP
3:14
DIPLOMAT AT THE TABLE?
3:17
>> WELL, OF COURSE IT WEAKENS.
3:18
>> OUR POSITION.
3:20
>> DIPLOMACY IS HARD. YOU JUST
3:21
CAN'T.
3:22
>> DO IT FOR A LITTLE.
3:23
>> WHILE AND THEN WALK AWAY. YOU
3:25
DON'T ACHIEVE RESULTS IN THAT
3:27
RESPECT. AND I HOPE THE
3:27
SECRETARY WILL RECONSIDER JUST
3:29
PULLING OUT WHENEVER IT'S
3:31
INCONVENIENT. BUT SECONDLY, I
3:33
HAVE TO SAY I'M QUITE CONFUSED
3:35
BY THEIR STRATEGY. WHY ARE WE
3:38
TALKING ABOUT CRIMEA RIGHT NOW?
3:40
CHRIS, YOU AND I HAVE TALKED A
3:41
LOT OVER THE YEARS ABOUT
3:42
NEGOTIATIONS AND THE RECENT
3:44
MONTHS OUT OF THE BLUE. NOW
3:47
CRIMEA RECOGNITION IS ON THE
3:49
TABLE. I WANT TO KNOW WHO DID
3:51
THAT. I HAVE A WORRY THAT IT WAS
3:53
THE AMERICAN SIDE. I'VE NEVER
3:55
SEEN PUTIN DEMAND THIS AS BE
3:57
PART OF THE NEGOTIATIONS UNTIL
3:59
RECENTLY. AND IT JUST
4:00
UNDERSCORES FOR ME, IF MY
4:02
HYPOTHESIS IS TRUE, THAT WE'RE
4:04
NOT NEGOTIATING VERY EFFECTIVELY
4:06
WITH THE RUSSIANS, AND THAT IS
4:08
LEADING TO THIS DRAWING OUT THE
4:10
WAY IT HAS..."

Karasu

(978 posts)

3. Weird, right? Almost like the fucking president is a Russian agent or something.

Reply to blue-wave (Original post)

Wed Apr 23, 2025, 11:04 PM

6 hrs ago

spanone

(138,810 posts)

4. trmp is negotiating on behalf of the Russians.

Reply to blue-wave (Original post)

Wed Apr 23, 2025, 11:08 PM

6 hrs ago

JoseBalow

(7,252 posts)

5. Russia's right flank is vulnerable right now

Reply to blue-wave (Original post)

Wed Apr 23, 2025, 11:36 PM

5 hrs ago

Xi is squandering an opportunity by trying to play nice.

ReRe

(11,569 posts)

6. Negotiating, my arse!

Reply to blue-wave (Original post)

Thu Apr 24, 2025, 01:00 AM

4 hrs ago

This is Trump Negotiation, 101. Rubio is being spoon-fed what to say. There isn't 1oz of negotiation going on, and Marco Rubio knows it. Why doesn't he resign? Also, sounds like JD Vance is the one doing the "negotiating".

Someone else needs to be responsible for these "peace" talks, too. We can't represent Ukraine, as we are now their invader's ally , for God's sake! Shouldn't it be the UN that serves as the negotiator?

Reply to this discussion