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https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-to-snub-popes-funeral-as-jerusalem-vatican-relations-hit-a-low-amid-gaza-war/Israel to snub Popes funeral as Jerusalem-Vatican relations hit a low amid Gaza war
VATICAN CITY Most major nations will be sending heads of state or government, or royalty, to Pope Francis funeral on Saturday, but Israel will be represented only by its ambassador to the Vatican.
The decision to keep the representation at the lowest level possible is a sign of how far Israels relations with the Vatican have deteriorated since the start of the war in Gaza in 2023, diplomats said.
It also follows an Israeli government decision to delete a social media post that had offered condolences for the popes death.

Pisces
(5,929 posts)claudette
(5,296 posts)Gods chosen people Disgraceful
lapucelle
(20,049 posts)Doesn't the phrase "God's chosen people" refer to Jews?
Surely your post is not about Jewish people.
claudette
(5,296 posts)the people in the Israeli government who are authorizing and doing the killing are not Jews? Having many Jewish family members, I know that not every Jew feels they are "chosen."
I have nothing against Jews who don't authorize murder at all. I just disagree with the "chosen people" name they chose for themselves.
Mossfern
(3,705 posts)It does not mean "special." I'll look for a link for you. As a Jewish woman I take offense at your post:
Chosenness is not about merit; it is about responsibility. Jews live with the ever-present and inescapable discomfort caused by the conscience of a people expected by God or by whatever inner force drives them to be at the creative and moral vanguard of humankind.
Some have even called chosenness an affliction, for it has invited mockery of Jews in every age. The Romans derided Jesus by forcing him to wear a crown of thorns. Nineteen centuries later, the Nazis ridiculed Jewish claims to chosenness by taking fiendish delight in treating Jews as less than human.
https://reformjudaism.org/blog/what-does-it-really-mean-be-chosen-people
A Chabad explanation:
https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/160993/jewish/Are-the-Jews-the-Chosen-People.htm
I hope these helped you to understand a bit of what "chosen" means in this instance.
claudette
(5,296 posts)To you. Youre not killing innocents
Mossfern
(3,705 posts)that I'm evil because I'm part of the chosen people? Do you think the majority of the Jewish people are killing innocents - are Jews programmed that way?
You may want to direct at your ire at Netanyahu and the right wing in Israel instead of Jewish people. The IDF is comprised of people of all opinions and even Muslims and Christians.
What you are doing is equivalent to someone saying the you are an American and therefore you support Trump and the idiotic and his dangerous and idiotic administration.
It's called stereotyping ....
claudette
(5,296 posts)evil. I just wonder how those who murder innocents get to believe they are chosen by God for ANY reason. Do you honestly think those who authorize the murder of innocent Palestinians have that right? I dont think my Jewish family members are evil either. They dont want Nuttyahoo in charge and dont believe God chose him bye. Namaste
Added. Im an American but I dont call myself a Magat. Apples and oranges.
Mossfern
(3,705 posts)Jewish people don't consider themselves to be murderers.
Do you have the same disdain for Palestinians who believe that all Jews should be annihilated, or is their cause a just one in your eyes. All that had to happen since the inception of this great tragedy was for Hamas to return the hostages and admit defeat. Why don't you blame them as being the initial cause of all the horror we see now.
Having Jewish relatives does NOT make your argument legitimate.
Damn, it's like a racist saying that they have some black friends - sheesh!
Look in the mirror claudette ,,,,,
lapucelle
(20,049 posts)
LuvLoogie
(7,969 posts)Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will install two poles flying 100 foot Israeli flags on either side of Beit Aghion.
AStern
(211 posts)nt
Clouds Passing
(4,437 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(24,718 posts)I appeal to the warring parties: call a ceasefire, release the hostages and come to the aid of a starving people that aspires to a future of peace!
Really objectionable stuff.
B.See
(5,195 posts)how dare he?
claudette
(5,296 posts)go to the Pope's funeral, Israel doesn't want peace. Nuttyahool wants all Palestinians out of Gaza so he can rename it Israel.
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Maru Kitteh
(30,091 posts)He might be right about that.
IrishBubbaLiberal
(1,446 posts)In view of Netanyahu refusing to go to the Vatican for
Pope services ..
This makes more sense
https://apnews.com/article/icc-israel-hamas-warrants-netanyahu-palestinian-arrest-73c854d072e0a1a41b19b2cb2cdd07fa
Top war-crimes court issues arrest warrants for Netanyahu and others in Israel-Hamas fighting
Nov 21, 2024
THE HAGUE (AP) The worlds top war-crimes court issued arrest warrants Thursday for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, his former defense minister and Hamas military chief, accusing them of crimes against humanity in connection with the 13-month war in Gaza.
The warrants said there was reason to believe Netanyahu and former Defense Minister Yoav Gallant have used starvation as a method of warfare by restricting humanitarian aid and have intentionally targeted civilians in Israels campaign against Hamas in Gaza charges Israeli officials deny.