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Escaped Floridian

(30 posts)
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 04:01 PM 15 hrs ago

By the way, Trump is a Russian AGENT

Not asset. Agent. He is actively working for Putin, doing his damnedest to weaken or even destroy America. I don't think I'm saying anything that most of you didn't already know. I just wanted to state it here in black and white.

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By the way, Trump is a Russian AGENT (Original Post) Escaped Floridian 15 hrs ago OP
He's an agent and an ass. Dave Bowman 15 hrs ago #1
You and the OP poster are correct, sir/madame. brush 11 hrs ago #29
Repug Congress And Senate too lame54 15 hrs ago #2
He's not smart enough to be an agent or an asset. BlueTsunami2018 14 hrs ago #3
Yes, too dumb to call him an agent MadameButterfly 14 hrs ago #6
Puppet indeed democrank 12 hrs ago #28
Fred Koch was Stalin's bff. Heritage Found. Supported by koch $$$. Clouds Passing 13 hrs ago #12
Fred hated Stalin. Yoyoyo77 11 hrs ago #32
He's a DUMB agent--- but he's what they bought Jack Valentino 7 hrs ago #35
Need confirmation? Read homegirl 20 min ago #44
I'm not sure that fascism/oligarchy has to align with undermining Ukraine AdamGG 5 hrs ago #40
Which is why Dems suggesting we need to move right is so infuriating. Putin tasked his agent with creating a cult. nt Blasphemer 14 hrs ago #4
At his best, he's little more than Moscow's Useful Idiot Torchlight 14 hrs ago #5
Whether he is or is not, Mme. Defarge 14 hrs ago #7
Double naught? Bonx 14 hrs ago #8
So is Vance. live love laugh 13 hrs ago #9
I don't know how anyone can deny the Krasnov report at this point. They wouldn't have commissioned the most esteemed Karasu 13 hrs ago #10
Asset, not agent Warpy 13 hrs ago #11
His destruction of America has to be deliberate iemanja 13 hrs ago #13
or just "following orders". Jack Valentino 7 hrs ago #36
Exactly Escaped Floridian 4 hrs ago #41
Putin might want him to tone it down a notch, not be so obvious. IronLionZion 13 hrs ago #14
Malcom Nance said that today Botany 13 hrs ago #15
100% agree. xuplate 13 hrs ago #16
the manchurian candidate. AllaN01Bear 13 hrs ago #17
MSM is trying super hard to provide both-sides analysis of daily outrages during 2 minute panel discussions. Instead, wiggs 12 hrs ago #18
Agent. Asset. FUCKING TRAITOR. dchill 12 hrs ago #19
Not just Trump ... CloudWatcher 12 hrs ago #20
This may be the one job Trump may not screw up. gordianot 12 hrs ago #21
To me more a half-witted asshat Hassler 12 hrs ago #22
Been saying it since early 2016 - BEFORE he got elected! Grins 12 hrs ago #23
How did the Republican party get so "red" ??? Jack Valentino 7 hrs ago #37
Yep.. TY! Cha 12 hrs ago #24
I think he is an agent ERW 12 hrs ago #25
I'm not a conspiracy person but I totally believe that. It seems obvious to me. walkingman 12 hrs ago #26
K&R Blue Owl 12 hrs ago #27
Agree republianmushroom 11 hrs ago #30
Has been for awhile now Pas-de-Calais 11 hrs ago #31
He showed us that in 2016 Dem4life1970 10 hrs ago #33
Sure seems like it. calimary 8 hrs ago #34
But... czarjak 7 hrs ago #38
Let's just call him the 21st century version of "Agent Orange" ReRe 6 hrs ago #39
Knowledge Iamscrewed 4 hrs ago #42
He's been that for years. cstanleytech 3 hrs ago #43

BlueTsunami2018

(4,314 posts)
3. He's not smart enough to be an agent or an asset.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 04:16 PM
14 hrs ago

He’s just likes the trappings of power. I don’t think the Heritage Foundation or the Federalist Society, the Project 2025 people, are Russian agents either. They are basically the John Birchers and their ideological descendants who have been around for decades and have finally found the way to do the things they’ve always wanted to do. It just so happens that their goals align with oligarchs the world over, Russian oligarchs included. They’re just standard fascists.


Piss doesn’t understand the first thing about how government works, he just has people in his ear telling him to do these things and they’ll make everyone love him or fear him, the only things he actually cares about. It’s all just a show to him.

MadameButterfly

(2,873 posts)
6. Yes, too dumb to call him an agent
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 04:39 PM
14 hrs ago

but too actively working for Putin to be just an asset. The best word is puppet.

Yoyoyo77

(310 posts)
32. Fred hated Stalin.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 07:37 PM
11 hrs ago

Papa Koch worked overseas for Stalin and after that Hitler. He helped build the oil extraction industries in both. He was pissed that the Russians working with his crew kept getting tossed in the gulag. Hitler left the crew working with him alone, at least while Fred was still in the country. Fred loved the 3rd Reich Germany so much that he had his kids German nanny go with them when the family returned to Kansas. Natch!!!

Jack Valentino

(1,877 posts)
35. He's a DUMB agent--- but he's what they bought
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 11:10 PM
7 hrs ago

who just happened to be elected President of the United States.


they made a good investment, as it turns out

homegirl

(1,707 posts)
44. Need confirmation? Read
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 06:45 AM
20 min ago

AMERICAN KOMPROMAT by Carl Unger.

Complete with pages and pages of confirming footnotes!

AdamGG

(1,676 posts)
40. I'm not sure that fascism/oligarchy has to align with undermining Ukraine
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 01:58 AM
5 hrs ago

there's some Russian agent in the mix too, definitely on Trump's part. Many of the others just don't mind going along with it as a vehicle to meet their goals.

Blasphemer

(3,428 posts)
4. Which is why Dems suggesting we need to move right is so infuriating. Putin tasked his agent with creating a cult. nt
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 04:16 PM
14 hrs ago

Torchlight

(4,548 posts)
5. At his best, he's little more than Moscow's Useful Idiot
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 04:25 PM
14 hrs ago

He possess neither the cunning nor the discipline to play at spy. mr. trump is pissing on the nation for his own profit, no cunning masterplan by Putin.

Karasu

(978 posts)
10. I don't know how anyone can deny the Krasnov report at this point. They wouldn't have commissioned the most esteemed
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 05:16 PM
13 hrs ago

Last edited Wed Apr 23, 2025, 10:19 PM - Edit history (1)

artist in Russia to do a portrait of him for anything less. They're proud as fuck to have successfully installed one of their agents as "leader" of the US and have been openly bragging about it since his fucking first term.

Warpy

(113,237 posts)
11. Asset, not agent
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 05:24 PM
13 hrs ago

Russians tend to err on the side of xemophobia, so their agents, who have a certain amount of automy and power, are all Rissoams/ Putin's Pet Piggy is just that, someone who can be controlled and commanded through blackmail, financial pressure, or some sort of one sided, fictional bromance. With PPP, it's likely all three.

Bust yeah, he's a Russian asset. It's just another reason Congress needs to be kicked off its dead collective behind and forced to do its job.

Jack Valentino

(1,877 posts)
36. or just "following orders".
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 11:13 PM
7 hrs ago

He may be stupid enough to believe that what he is doing will help America in the end.


I don't see any evidence of "intelligence" from his actions in the last ten years,
do you??

On the other hand, he has shown himself to be easy to manipulate.

41. Exactly
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 02:49 AM
4 hrs ago

It's so obvious, in fact, that I'm surprised Donnie doesn't just come out and say so. Hey, it wouldn't even cost him politically, because Congressional Republicans are too goddam chickenshit and MAGA voters are too fucking dumb.

IronLionZion

(48,552 posts)
14. Putin might want him to tone it down a notch, not be so obvious.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 05:32 PM
13 hrs ago

not that it matters much at this point. Who is going to hold them accountable?

xuplate

(79 posts)
16. 100% agree.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 05:50 PM
13 hrs ago

He is too dumb to plot out a take over this comprehensive and efficient. This is Soviet level subterfuge. Putin was weaned on these techniques.

wiggs

(8,201 posts)
18. MSM is trying super hard to provide both-sides analysis of daily outrages during 2 minute panel discussions. Instead,
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 06:09 PM
12 hrs ago

they should start every conversation with the appropriate context of TSF's serious limitations and disorders...which have been apparent for decades. Kind of important.

Much of his behavior and actions are due to his fears, sociopathy, and limitations...including being an easy target for ex-KGB officials and other authoritarian leaders foreign and domestic.

This would bring everything into focus more clearly because it explains so, so much.

CloudWatcher

(1,994 posts)
20. Not just Trump ...
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 06:18 PM
12 hrs ago

Don't look too closely at Mr Musk. And from today's NYT:

Vance Outlines U.S. Plan for Ukraine That Sharply Favors Russia

https://democraticunderground.com/10143446330

gordianot

(15,567 posts)
21. This may be the one job Trump may not screw up.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 06:25 PM
12 hrs ago

Even then he might be more effective if no one suspected. Seems to me everyone knows Trump does not hide it.

Grins

(8,258 posts)
23. Been saying it since early 2016 - BEFORE he got elected!
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 06:33 PM
12 hrs ago

And then he got elected.
And in 2017 he appointed Flynn .
And then Flynn got caught.
Flynn is another Russian asset.

And he launched a missile attack on Syria.
But first told the Russians so they could get out of the way of the incoming.

And then he fired Comey and bragged about it to Russian foreign minister.

And then he gave code-level secrets to Russians.

Then the CIA extracted their PRIME - MOST SECRET!!! - asset they ever had - in the top echelon of the Kremlin because even they suspected Trump.

And Helsinki.

And that was just his first 5- months!!!

The list is long. And then this year. Just his first 85-days…

He’s as Russian as bad Borscht and cheap vodka.

Jack Valentino

(1,877 posts)
37. How did the Republican party get so "red" ???
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 11:17 PM
7 hrs ago

Oh yeah, I know... the "Russians are not communists anymore"...


That is certainly true, now they are more like the far right...

ERW

(8 posts)
25. I think he is an agent
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 06:53 PM
12 hrs ago

He is dumb, but he doesn't have to think, he just needs to follow Putin's instructions on how to destroy the U.S.

Dem4life1970

(794 posts)
33. He showed us that in 2016
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 08:30 PM
10 hrs ago

"Russia, if you are listening..." he said to an open mic.

He appointed Manafort.

He met with Russians in Trump Tower in early 2016.

He shared state secrets in the Oval Office with Russian officials (Sergie Lavrov and some other "pinkie, commie" as they would say).

Helsinki, prostrating himself before Putin on live TV.

He IS a Russian agent. 100%

ReRe

(11,569 posts)
39. Let's just call him the 21st century version of "Agent Orange"
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 12:22 AM
6 hrs ago

but potentially a Trillion times more deadly than the original one.
All I know is he went to Russia back in 1987, can't remember if he was wanting to build one of his Trump Towers over there, or whether it had to do with the Beauty contest "business" (or both), but when he got back stateside he put a full length page ad in the NYTs along the lines of getting rid of NATO. Maybe Russia looked at him as an asset at that point. But. When Barack Obama gave his speech at that WH Correspondent's Dinner where he made a total fool out of DJT in his presence, that was the moment when the bad boy became a full on Agent. IMHO.

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