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applegrove

(125,757 posts)
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 12:06 PM Yesterday

Vance Outlines U.S. Plan for Ukraine That Sharply Favors Russia

Vance Outlines U.S. Plan for Ukraine That Sharply Favors Russia

Vice President JD Vance said the cease-fire plan would freeze territory along the current front lines of the Russia-Ukraine conflict and that the U.S. would “walk away” if both parties did not agree.

By Michael D. Shear and Mark Landler
Reporting from London

April 23, 2025
Updated 12:03 p.m. ET

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/23/world/europe/ukraine-cease-fire-talks-london.html?smid=url-share


Vice President JD Vance on Wednesday called on Ukraine to accept an American peace proposal that closely mirrors longstanding Russian demands, including a “freeze” of territorial lines in the three-year war, acceptance of the annexation of Crimea by Russia and a prohibition on Ukraine becoming part of the NATO alliance.

It was the first time a U.S. official had publicly laid out a cease-fire deal in such stark terms and the comments appeared designed to increase pressure on Ukraine, which has long refused to accept Russia’s claims on its lands, particularly in Crimea.

Mr. Vance, speaking during a trip to India, said the United States would “walk away” from the peace process if both Ukraine and Russia refused to accept the American terms. But President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine was clearly the target.

“We’ve issued a very explicit proposal to both the Russians and the Ukrainians, and it’s time for them to either say yes or for the United States to walk away from this process,” Mr. Vance told reporters. “The only way to really stop the killing is for the armies to both put down their weapons, to freeze this thing and to get on with the business of actually building a better Russia and a better Ukraine.”
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Vance Outlines U.S. Plan for Ukraine That Sharply Favors Russia (Original Post) applegrove Yesterday OP
Screw you Vance, your just another Putin puppet. republianmushroom Yesterday #1
Vance, you stupid shit the only way to stop the killing is for Russia to pull their troops out and go back to where they Walleye Yesterday #2
BREAKING: London Peace Talks COLLAPSE -- Zelenskyy's Red Line on Crimea Changed Everything republianmushroom Yesterday #3
Shocking SheltieLover 23 hrs ago #4
Appeasement is not a solution. Torchlight 23 hrs ago #5

Walleye

(39,758 posts)
2. Vance, you stupid shit the only way to stop the killing is for Russia to pull their troops out and go back to where they
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 12:10 PM
Yesterday

Belong. I really don’t think Ukrainians are going to stop fighting Russians as long as they’re still occupying their country.

Torchlight

(4,548 posts)
5. Appeasement is not a solution.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 01:32 PM
23 hrs ago

On the other hand, Mr. trump does appear determined to create Moscow-on-the-Hudson with his Vichy diplomacy. If that's the case, he's doing a stunningly effective job.

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