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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSince ICE is now running agents around with no identifying
badges or markings and driving unmarked vehicles when they grab people how is it possible to distinguish this from just some crooks kidnapping somebody? I'll go a step further. With "Stand Your Ground" out there if someone is armed are they not justified in opening fire on people who try to grab them and don't identify as law enforcement of some sort? I'm expecting the MAGA lunatics to start pretending to be official enforcement and trying to grab people.
At some point some of this can go real bad if the ICE goons get the wrong person or house. Kind of like the cops when they do a "no knock" raid on the wrong house or apartment and shooting starts because people think crooks are coming in.

Diamond_Dog
(36,655 posts)Girard442
(6,623 posts)...they clearly announced themselves as goverment agents.
moniss
(7,090 posts)would be to leave no witnesses.
NCDem47
(2,781 posts)Then the reporter will say "We have no information on the target or charge." They just air folks being rounded up with no explanation.
I am seeing a recent trend though at associating it with "gangs." And that's it.
LuckyLib
(6,964 posts)and inflammatory. People in this community need to protest and boycott such news.
WhiskeyGrinder
(24,718 posts)This has already happened. One reportedly said "this isn't the guy" and the other said "take him anyway."
https://documentedny.com/2025/04/14/ice-bukele-cecot-tren-de-aragua-el-salvador-new-york-deported/
That moment marked the beginning of Wilmers search for answers answers hes still waiting for.
Johnny2X2X
(22,764 posts)That's why he's pushing for the ability to send US citizens to El Salvador. This is rapidly turning into a situation where the government can disappear anyone for any reason without any hint of due process. They're basically doing it to brown people with Hispanic sounding names already and that's why they're getting away with it.
By the end of the year I predict some demonstrators will be disappeared in similar fashion, Trump explicitely is claiming this right already.
Irish_Dem
(68,459 posts)RJ-MacReady
(377 posts)Irish_Dem
(68,459 posts)Let them charge me the nazi bastards.
RockRaven
(17,161 posts)they get a chance to vindicate themselves in court. That is one of the many reasons the described behavior is so unacceptable -- it creates unnecessary risks and lose-lose choices.
moniss
(7,090 posts)they make a mistake like the cops do. As I said in a comment response above I think that ICE would just kill everybody and make up whatever story was needed.