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applegrove

(125,750 posts) Wed Apr 23, 2025, 05:33 AM 23 hrs ago

"FDA Suspends Milk Quality Testing: A Potential Food Safety Crisis

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"FDA Suspends Milk Quality Testing: A Potential Food Safety Crisis

(Video with advice at link)

Applegrove:

Okay this is a pattern. WH releases some horrific new policy threatening the lives and/or welfare of American families and it is a pressure point that release fear/pain in the public. To train the public. (A simple rumour about a henious policy would work too). When the public seems to galvinize in anger on the specific issue and roars into action the WH backtracks. There is thus no decisive win for the public. What have the heads of families learned? How to feel intense pain at the hands of this MAGA WH. That whatever the policy of the Trump WH, it could be so much worse. Don't know if this lack of testing of testing facilities will result in illnesses but the point was to train the public with intense fear pressure points resulting in deep wounds that the WH can use in the future to control people with. Of course, beyond cowing people, fear can be used to couch other less terrifying policy, making some Trump policy look less frightening in comparison. It is fear play.

* thanks to my cousin for the link

HHS/FDA update:

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/fda-milk-quality-test-cuts-trump-b2737813.htm

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"FDA Suspends Milk Quality Testing: A Potential Food Safety Crisis (Original Post) applegrove 23 hrs ago OP

Damn these people. I go through a quart of milk every couple of days. Walleye 23 hrs ago #1

G.O.P. spreading sour shit hither and yon BoRaGard 23 hrs ago #2

I boil my milk for everything I need it for (Lattes, to make yogurt, etc) so that will help hlthe2b 22 hrs ago #3

If one believes HHS/FDA -- which is hard nowadays -- this is what was said in The Independent 6 hours ago-- Silent Type 18 hrs ago #4

Half of me thinks they leaked it to get the same applegrove 18 hrs ago #6

I sure wouldn't delete. MFer trump enjoys hurting/scaring people and the chaos it creates. Silent Type 18 hrs ago #8

Okay. I'll leave the discussion up. applegrove 18 hrs ago #9

Dairy milk was once a reasonably common source of Tuberculosis infections in people Maru Kitteh 18 hrs ago #5

This and the soup is why there is the FDA. Blue Full Moon 18 hrs ago #7

My Prediction - Nothing To Worry About ProfessorGAC 17 hrs ago #10

It may have been a leak to scare people. HHS/FDA applegrove 17 hrs ago #11

Maddow Blog-Tough to swallow: The Trump administration's approach to food safety keeps getting worse LetMyPeopleVote 15 hrs ago #12

Walleye

(39,752 posts)

1. Damn these people. I go through a quart of milk every couple of days.

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Apr 23, 2025, 05:36 AM

23 hrs ago

Between coffee and tea and I also like a cold glass of milk with dinner sometimes. These assholes better quit fucking everything up.

BoRaGard

(5,086 posts)

2. G.O.P. spreading sour shit hither and yon

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Apr 23, 2025, 06:04 AM

23 hrs ago

hlthe2b

(109,233 posts)

3. I boil my milk for everything I need it for (Lattes, to make yogurt, etc) so that will help

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Apr 23, 2025, 06:27 AM

22 hrs ago

But, all "veggies" thinking their soy or oat milk protects them, if inspectors aren't getting into those plants, I have news for you... A whole lot of contamination does NOT come from the cows, but environmental contamination in the plants or from the workers' own bacterial infections.

We NEED milk and all food inspectors! BADLY.

Silent Type

(9,017 posts)

4. If one believes HHS/FDA -- which is hard nowadays -- this is what was said in The Independent 6 hours ago--

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Apr 23, 2025, 10:36 AM

18 hrs ago

"The FDA is actively evaluating alternative approaches for the upcoming fiscal year and will keep all participating laboratories informed as new information becomes available," the email added.

'A Department of Health and Human Services spokesperson said that the laboratory was already set to be decommissioned ahead of the announcement.

'They added that the proficiency testing was only being paused because of a transition to a new laboratory, and insisted that dairy product testing would continue.

''The announcement comes days after an informant revealed to CBS News that the FDA is planning to end the majority of its food and safety inspections. HHS denied the claims to The Independent.''

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/fda-milk-quality-test-cuts-trump-b2737813.html

applegrove

(125,750 posts)

6. Half of me thinks they leaked it to get the same

Reply to Silent Type (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 23, 2025, 10:44 AM

18 hrs ago

public in pain/fear payoff. Doesn't matter if it is real or not as long as word gets out and burns some people. We can agree that the Trump WH is trying to scare people i think.

Should I delete?

Silent Type

(9,017 posts)

8. I sure wouldn't delete. MFer trump enjoys hurting/scaring people and the chaos it creates.

Reply to applegrove (Reply #6)

Wed Apr 23, 2025, 10:50 AM

18 hrs ago

applegrove

(125,750 posts)

9. Okay. I'll leave the discussion up.

Reply to Silent Type (Reply #8)

Wed Apr 23, 2025, 11:00 AM

18 hrs ago

Maru Kitteh

(30,091 posts)

5. Dairy milk was once a reasonably common source of Tuberculosis infections in people

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Apr 23, 2025, 10:41 AM

18 hrs ago

We’ve largely forgotten Tuberculosis in this country, but right now, more than one in four humans alive on the planet has had TB, or is living or dying with TB right now.

ETA; Unpasteurized milk can spread TB from infected cows to humans.

Blue Full Moon

(2,053 posts)

7. This and the soup is why there is the FDA.

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Apr 23, 2025, 10:44 AM

18 hrs ago

https://bigthink.com/the-past/swill-milk-scandal/
Nearly 8,000 babies a year shriveled to death from uncontrollable diarrhea, as reported by The New York Times. Without the luxury of advanced medical diagnostics, doctors struggled to identify the culprit. The public floated theories—nutritional and digestive diseases like cholera infantum and marasmus, to give name to the epidemic—but with little evidence, they ultimately gave a collective shrug. That is, until 1858, when an enterprising journalist named Frank Leslie unveiled the offender in a series of scathing exposés: milk.

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ProfessorGAC

(72,378 posts)

10. My Prediction - Nothing To Worry About

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Apr 23, 2025, 11:17 AM

17 hrs ago

I seriously doubt there will any change in the testing at the local level.
My dad worked in the dairy business. I've seen the inside of their labs since I was a little kid.
The testing today takes minutes of tech time and the cost is sunk. The people and the hardware are already there.
Plus, the labs are minimally staffed, so the cost to the dairy is close to insignificant.
Even if there is a relaxation in regulations, it doesn't absolutely shield the dairies from legal liability in the event of a contamination. So, it becomes a modest price to pay to avoid lawsuilts.
I think the dairies will still test as they've been doing for the last 80 years.

applegrove

(125,750 posts)

11. It may have been a leak to scare people. HHS/FDA

Reply to ProfessorGAC (Reply #10)

Wed Apr 23, 2025, 11:20 AM

17 hrs ago

claim the policy is not canceling testing in a significant way.

LetMyPeopleVote

(161,888 posts)

12. Maddow Blog-Tough to swallow: The Trump administration's approach to food safety keeps getting worse

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Apr 23, 2025, 01:25 PM

15 hrs ago

Those who backed the Republican ticket may not have realized they were voting to scale back food-safety safeguards, but that’s what they’re getting.
https://bsky.app/profile/stevebenen.com/post/3lngfhhaxms2c

The good news is that the Trump administration's approach to food safety only matters to Americans who eat food.

For everyone else, we're overdue for an important conversation.

Link to tweet

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/tough-swallow-trump-administrations-approach-food-safety-keeps-getting-rcna202437

The good news is that the Trump administration’s controversial approach to food safety only matters to Americans who eat food. For everyone else, however, there’s cause for some concern. Reuters reported:

The Food and Drug Administration is suspending a quality control program for testing of fluid milk and other dairy products due to reduced capacity in its food safety and nutrition division, according to an internal email seen by Reuters. ... The FDA this month also suspended existing and developing programs that ensured accurate testing for bird flu in milk and cheese and pathogens like the parasite Cyclospora in other food products.

.....In fact, it was just last week when Reuters also reported that the Trump administration was “suspending a quality control program for its food testing laboratories as a result of staff cuts at the Department of Health and Human Services.”

That news came two weeks after The New York Times reported that Donald Trump’s Department of Health and Human Services, led by Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the department’s conspiratorial secretary, announced “wide-ranging cutbacks at federal health agencies,” including “scientists who tested food and drugs for contaminants or deadly bacteria.”

That news came two weeks after the Times also reported that the FDA delayed — by nearly three years — implementation of a requirement that food companies and grocers “rapidly trace contaminated food through the supply chain and pull it off the shelves.”.....

This came on the heels of multiple reports that the Trump administration disbanded two federal committees tasked with advising policymakers on food safety, the National Advisory Committee on Microbiological Criteria for Foods and the National Advisory Committee on Meat and Poultry Inspection.

Alas, the list keeps going. The Times also reported that the administration has “slowed or stopped some testing of grocery items for hazardous bacteria and monitoring of shellfish and food packaging for PFAS, chemicals linked to cancer and reproductive harm.”

And did I mention that the administration appointed Donald Trump Jr.’s hunting buddy to lead the FDA’s Human Foods Program, overseeing all nutrition and food safety activities? Because that happened, too.

I suspect many Americans who supported the Republican ticket last fall didn’t realize they were voting to scale back food-safety safeguards, but that’s what they’re getting.

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