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Do you think AOC will run for president. Should she?

Ocelot II
(124,323 posts)leftieNanner
(15,938 posts)Not yet
RockCreek
(970 posts)but I doubt she'd win them.
A lot can happen in 3 + years though.
I'd love to see her primary Schumer.
Wounded Bear
(61,768 posts)If she's the one, I will vote for her of course, but she's developing some power in the House that I think will serve the American people well over the next few years. Eventually, she'll make a great Senator as well if she chooses that path.
OnDoutside
(20,803 posts)Wounded Bear
(61,768 posts)OnDoutside
(20,803 posts)I was hoping she would have a reset but running for Governor doesn't sound like it.
whathehell
(30,136 posts)Perhaps in the future.
Emile
(34,158 posts)valleyrogue
(2,014 posts)SSJVegeta
(393 posts)Cirsium
(2,339 posts)I remember this happening after Kerry lost. "So, Dems, who do you like next? Hillary?"
She's been traveling around the country. She's been raising a lot of money.
I would get down on my knees and beg her not to run. Too much misogyny.
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ShazzieB
(20,310 posts)The misogyny would be off the charts.
Also, I think she'd be jumping the gun. I love her, but she's only 35 now and won't even be 40 in November 2028. She has a lot of potential, but she also has plenty of time. She needs to wait a while and get a few more years under her belt.
Xavier Breath
(5,525 posts)She'd have my primary vote over a few names I can think of. Maybe not over some others.
MarineCombatEngineer
(15,111 posts)I would prefer a more seasoned Democrat with much more experience, she's perfect, for now, where she's at, she is taking it to the repukes with vigor.
ShazzieB
(20,310 posts)I really hope she's not in that big of a hurry, because I think it would be a mistake to try that soon. She needs to wait a while.
Celerity
(49,433 posts)Sympthsical
(10,479 posts)Terrible idea that only the insulated could love.
Where I do think she'd excel and thrive is in Congressional leadership. Speaker Ocasio-Cortez? Majority leader? That feels like where she may be best suited and what is electorally reasonable and reachable.
If she ran for President, the entire Republican campaign would just be running commercials with her tweets in them. They wouldn't even have to spend that much money.
It doesn't work.
Celerity
(49,433 posts)centre-left/centrists (from the New Democrat Coalition), hard centrist corporate Dems (from the bipartisan No Labels Problem Solvers Caucus), and conservadems (Blue Dogs), that when combined, will be very hard to overcome.
Those 3 House caucuses combine to form well over half of the entire Democratic caucus in the House atm, and likely going forward for some time. She also may well haemorrhage votes (depending on her opponent(s) for the positions) from other progressive House members from other identity-based caucuses (the Congressional Black Caucus for instance, and/or the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, etc).
Sympthsical
(10,479 posts)I'm old enough to remember when Pelosi first became Speaker. She was depicted as a far, far, far, far, far Left San Franciscan liberal who was incredibly radical compared to the rest of the party. Of course, by that time, she wasn't. She'd been playing a crucial and effective role in the House by then. But that was the image of her. (There was a hilarious SNL skit with Kristen Wiig when she won Speakership at the time. "The safe word is . . . palomino!" )
I don't think AOC could become Speaker tomorrow or even the next decade. But in 15 years? She'd still be considered young and she has the profile and capability to network herself into position.
Celerity
(49,433 posts)will slide enough in a direction wherein the anti-progressive corporate/centrist/conservative elements who are very much against AOC types will be reduced in numbers and influence enough to elect her, unless we are talking a LONG time (20 years at least) in the future.
The utterly ruinous Age of Trump is also an immense wild card. Will we even have a viable democracy in 10, 15, 20 years? Will we have one in FOUR?
Sympthsical
(10,479 posts)They'll still be the main two parties in American politics - that seems unalterable. It just feels like neither of them are prepared for what is happening now. Not just Trump. The age of automation, the economic changes, the technological changes. Both parties groan and creak in an attempt to bestir themselves and can't seem to slough off the heft of age or the calcification in their joints.
And it feels like everyone senses it. Schumer and the CR felt like watching a scene in a movie you already know the conclusion to, but it's happening in slow motion, and no one's turning the projector off any time soon.
And once that census hits . . . it feels like a reshuffling is in the offing. What that looks like, I have no idea. I am not as optimistic as I once was. I think social media have thickened politics into an apotheosis of dumb tribalism. There is no agile thinking, no adaptation, no wiliness, no energy, no joy in the breaking of the old and creating the new.
It's just going to be the same old shit until we ease ourselves into the car crash.
When the country is starting to look at John Roberts as the only thing that can save us, well, isn't it interesting how we got here?
Fiendish Thingy
(19,100 posts)But I would love to see her run in the future, maybe in about 12 years?
First, to the senate.
Meowmee
(8,702 posts)I wouldn't vote for her in a primary. If you want to lose again run especially her or any woman. I want to win so I will not vote for a woman in a primary.
emulatorloo
(45,779 posts)canetoad
(18,929 posts)But first things first; it must be ensured that elections will take place and they are fair.
flamingdem
(40,372 posts)But we're up against nefarious methods and also zero for two with female candidates.
I hope someone looks strong enough at the time.
I don't see anyone on the horizon yet.
Renew Deal
(83,831 posts)claudette
(5,296 posts)No she will not and should not run (she will lose in a primary IMHO)
FloridaBlues
(4,531 posts)Morbius
(434 posts)Given the current political climate, I really doubt anyone as far left as AOC can win nationally, let alone a woman.
I hate writing that, but that's how I see it right now.
I like Tim Walz, I like JB Pritzker, and there are a few other Democratic Governors who have a shot. I think. Assuming we even have elections, and assuming they're fairly run.
Ms. Ocasio-Cortez is more than just charismatic, though; she's pretty smart. I think she knows this isn't a time when she can win national office. She can move the needle, though, and she is doing that. Good for her.
buzzycrumbhunger
(1,091 posts)She not only needs more seasoning, but this country of uneducated numpties is obviously not ready to vote for a woman yet.
I think Pete would be a great bet.
ShazzieB
(20,310 posts)Pete could do a great job, but there's too much stupid infesting the voting population these days. I hate it, but if Schlump has taught us anything, it's that we should never underestimate the amount of stupidity and narrow mindedness there is out there.
buzzycrumbhunger
(1,091 posts)I guess I was hoping that his great counterpoints to the present coup bullshit are starting to resonate with people, and I guess gay isnt what pops up in my head when I see his comments. I need to consider how stupid a large percentage of the country actually is. *sigh*
Shell do a better job in Congress
dweller
(26,437 posts)or even a full term in the Senate first .
Get some experience there and then run .
2032
Love her , even in a rusty bucket
✌🏻
And I would rather see her in the Senate. But that's me. Others undoubtedly feel differently.
LudwigPastorius
(12,253 posts)If he runs again, he'll be 77 by then. If she can beat him and win a seat, give her a couple of years in the upper chamber then the Democratic president can offer her a high-level position in their administration.
With that experience on her resume, she can take her shot in 2032 and 2036.
H2O Man
(76,664 posts)If she wants to get more experience, I'm fine with that. But I hope to see her as president at some point.
fujiyamasan
(42 posts)Her district is heavily democratic (more so than the city as a whole) so it remains to be seen whether she could win a statewide race even in New York State.
Thats the first test case in my opinion. To first win the primary, shell need to build a much broader coalition than just her district (and Im not talking race, since her district is very diverse). She has the name recognition, so that gives her a leg up, but in a democratic state with many other ambitious politicians, the primary will be competitive. Gaining support upstate will be a challenge but is doable. Ironically, shell have to look at Hillary Clinton to see how she overcame baggage to win that seat.
I wouldnt consider her a shoe in for the senate or governors seat even if shes the nominee, but I think the last republican senator from New York was Aldamato who Schumer beat in the early nineties. Pataki was the last republican governor, thought he race is 2022 was relatively close.
I dont see how running for the presidency from her current position would be anything more than a vanity run. I dont see how being a rep from that district is a good springboard to the presidency, but then again look at who is president now
maybe the additional political experienced would be a drawback.
krawhitham
(4,981 posts)MineralMan
(148,901 posts)Torchlight
(4,548 posts)and I'm sure should she ever choose to do so, a timely and measured announcement will be made.
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