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PCIntern

(28,720 posts)
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 08:30 AM 12 hrs ago

"Everybody knows...." This is really outrageous rhetoric

Last edited Tue Jun 9, 2026, 09:16 AM - Edit history (1)

The Right Wing Fascist/Nazi-speak is utilizing this pair of words prior to each lie they tell. It is a presumptive condition that what is about to follow is a UNIVERSALLY ACCEPTED TRUTH.

Everybody knows that the elections were rigged

Everybody knows that solar and wind power is useless

Everybody knows that Joe Biden is enfeebled.

When I was in college, I had an acquaintance who, parenthetically, went on to a nationally renowned career in medicine. She was overwhelmingly opinionated about absolutely everything and would begin nine sentences out of ten with the words “You know,”. It was thus nearly impossible to discuss or argue with her because, well, “you know” you’d be on the wrong side of, well, any thesis.

It is a form of hypnosis and has aided Trump and his repulsive minions in basically forcing people to either agree with them or get off the bus. It is insidious and beyond undemocratic.

And one more thing: You know, everybody knows that these people are Nazis at heart.

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"Everybody knows...." This is really outrageous rhetoric (Original Post) PCIntern 12 hrs ago OP
I taught just the opposite NJCher 12 hrs ago #1
'You know' is the short form of - "You, know 'cause I don't" dave99 1 hr ago #22
What ticks me off gab13by13 12 hrs ago #2
And ironically, oil spills and spewing smoke stacks are way uglier than wind turbines. SidneyR 11 hrs ago #5
Inevitably, the person who says "Everybody says..." actually saw it as a meme on their cellphone FakeNoose 11 hrs ago #3
Oh yes, that is a classic con trick PatSeg 11 hrs ago #4
Everybody knows elected republicOns only care about the richest 1%. KS Toronado 11 hrs ago #6
Many people are saying... ToxMarz 10 hrs ago #7
Love this one.. Permanut 3 hrs ago #17
But how many of those people are even worth listening to? calimary 1 hr ago #21
Everybody knows that Republicans are pedophiles RainCaster 10 hrs ago #8
When my students said 'everyone knows', I would answer 'everyone in the known universe?' cbabe 10 hrs ago #9
Proof? Evidence? All you have to do is look. Harker 10 hrs ago #10
I'll take How to Propaganda for $1000 Alex. littlemissmartypants 9 hrs ago #11
If you precede a statement with the phrase "everybody knows" then it is highly unlikely the statement Martin68 9 hrs ago #12
Everyone knows...... SergeStorms 9 hrs ago #13
Your final sentence is intentionally ironic, no? Because yes, EVERYBODY DOES KNOW . ColoringFool 9 hrs ago #14
Yes of course PCIntern 9 hrs ago #15
The classic bandwagon fallacy SouthBayDem 8 hrs ago #16
Wanna know what everybody knows? "Everybody Knows, ' by Leonard Cohen. 3Hotdogs 3 hrs ago #18
Everybody knows . . . Aussie105 2 hrs ago #19
"Everybody knows Todd Blanche is very honest"... kentuck 2 hrs ago #20
Just once when trump or someone like him Figarosmom 39 min ago #23
Everyone knows Trumpanzees swallow horseshit like it's chocolate JHB 3 sec ago #24

NJCher

(43,680 posts)
1. I taught just the opposite
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 08:38 AM
12 hrs ago

In my communication classes. I told them to beware of “you know” because it means the speaker doesn’t know.

“You know” is a speech crutch for the inarticulate..

Points were taken off in speeches where the speaker said “you know” more than once.

gab13by13

(32,936 posts)
2. What ticks me off
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 08:46 AM
12 hrs ago

Is when “they” say, the American people.

The American people don’t want ugly wind turbines, etc.

FakeNoose

(42,753 posts)
3. Inevitably, the person who says "Everybody says..." actually saw it as a meme on their cellphone
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 09:21 AM
11 hrs ago

PatSeg

(53,813 posts)
4. Oh yes, that is a classic con trick
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 09:31 AM
11 hrs ago

And sometimes he'll say, "I know it and you do too". It eliminates any cause for discussion or debate.

cbabe

(6,920 posts)
9. When my students said 'everyone knows', I would answer 'everyone in the known universe?'
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 10:25 AM
10 hrs ago

Martin68

(28,149 posts)
12. If you precede a statement with the phrase "everybody knows" then it is highly unlikely the statement
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 11:04 AM
9 hrs ago

that follows it is true. If everybody knows something, then there is no need to state that fact up front. It's like admitting you are either lying or very unsure of your premise. And, as the OP points out, highly likely that the speaker is desperate to persuade others to believe something that just isn't true.

SergeStorms

(20,939 posts)
13. Everyone knows......
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 11:09 AM
9 hrs ago

that everything coming out of a Trumpublican's mouth is a lie, but some refuse to admit it if it furthers their own agenda.

EVERYONE KNOWS!

ColoringFool

(1,280 posts)
14. Your final sentence is intentionally ironic, no? Because yes, EVERYBODY DOES KNOW .
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 11:14 AM
9 hrs ago

"these people are Nazis at heart"!!

And if there are some who do not know this, they are missing a "sapiens" from Homo sapiens sapiens!

SouthBayDem

(33,412 posts)
16. The classic bandwagon fallacy
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 12:14 PM
8 hrs ago
The bandwagon fallacy, also known as the appeal to the masses or appeal to common belief fallacy, is the logical fallacy of claiming that something is true because everyone believes it. Whether that belief is actually true or not doesn’t matter—if an arguer claims that a position is true because it’s popular, the arguer is using the bandwagon fallacy.
(Grammarly)

The thankfully former Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene had a famous example when she advocated for a national divorce on grounds that everyone she knows supported it: “We need to separate by red states and blue states and shrink the federal government. Everyone I talk to says this.”

Aussie105

(8,268 posts)
19. Everybody knows . . .
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 06:25 PM
2 hrs ago

that someone who uses that phrase is just full of bovine excrement.

And it triggers my old-man Oppositional Defiance brain activity.

"Oppositional defiance, or ODD, is a behavioral disorder characterized by a persistent pattern of anger, irritability, defiance, and vindictive behavior toward authority figures."

I see it as a defense mechanism rather than a 'behavioral disorder'.

Figarosmom

(14,143 posts)
23. Just once when trump or someone like him
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 08:11 PM
39 min ago

Says (you know it's true or I know it and you know it or everybody knows ) to a reporter or show host, that reporter or show host would say shut the fuck up. Or just say, no I don't know that's true. Show me the proof. Or if that's true why haven't you sued? Just something to acknowledge it's a lie and they know it.

JHB

(38,371 posts)
24. Everyone knows Trumpanzees swallow horseshit like it's chocolate
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 08:50 PM
4 sec ago

Try to point out what the brown stuff in the bowl actually is, and they'll give you a hateful glare and order seconds and thirds, with extra guano sauce, just to savor the appalled look on your face.

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